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Smitty, defend The Newt!

whansen1202 — Tue, 07 May 2013 09:46:44 -0700

Read this article on NFL.com, and immediately thought what would Smitty say about this portion:

I don't believe Newton has what it takes to eradicate and/or mask areas of deficiency. I don't believe he is an elite, upper-echelon quarterback. The Panthers have finished under .500 in both of Newton's seasons as the quarterback. Cam can be dazzling and, at times, absolutely breathtaking. He also can be inconsistent protecting the ball and downright maddening with how he handles the "fifth quarter" responsibilities that come with being an NFL quarterback. Remember the press conference where he asked for the suggestion box? Franchise quarterbacks, team leaders don't do that. Newton rightly drew ire for performing his Superman routine when Carolina was losing big. Newton seemed aloof on the bench during losses, especially a 29-point, nationally televised defeat to the New York Giants on NFL Network. His teammates have yet to vote him a captain. That tells me something. Newton still needs to grow up. That's a problem.

When I look at the young group of quarterbacks, I don't put Newton in the category of Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Colin Kaepernick and Russell Wilson. He hasn't earned it. Luck and RG3 carried bad teams and were the epitome of clutch; the vets followed their lead. You don't see that happening with Newton in Carolina. Luck and RG3 would've put the flawed Panthers in the playoffs last year, just like they did with the Indianapolis Colts and Washington Redskins, respectively. The Panthers are 13-19 with Newton. Quarterbacks are judged by wins and losses. Going into Year 3, you can call Cam Newton electric, but you can't call him a winner.

Full article: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000167664/article/carolina-panthers-going-nowhere-with-ron-rivera-cam-newton

What's eating Stafford?

paulg002 — Tue, 30 Apr 2013 12:35:52 -0700

I don't follow the LIons much but I like to draft upper-middle-tier QB's like Staffy. But last year his accuracy took a dip, some say he lacked poise and hurried throws, and dropped to 21 TD's from 40(!). He had to throw much more for about the same yards.

So what was it - was he panicking more than usual, or was the O-line worse, or is he regressing?

Bust Candidates (Top 24 overall candidates only)

Smitty — Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:23:28 -0700

What players with ADPs inside the top 24ish are bust candidates for you. Explain if you can, even if you just say "he will decline" or "he will get hurt" etc.

Is Jermichael Finley worthless now?

electricrelish — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 06:38:18 -0700

Just noticed that Jermichael Finley has finally fallen significantly in DraftCalc's rankings. I'm surprised because he remained high for the majority of last season. As a Finley owner, it's been very frustrating, but he's only 25 years old. Is he truly done?

Ponder = Cream Puff thread

tmoney — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 18:16:03 -0700

Talk about it

Terrible Week for Fantasy....

jckpatsfan — Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:41:18 -0700

Josh Freeman currently has thrown for 4 interceptions.

Pierre Garcon has 6 pts.

Boldin has 0.

Doug Martin has 3 pts.

Bryce Brown got 4.

Lawrence tynes has 0.

Meanwhile my bench is rocking with matt ryan at 22 pts and jacoby jones at 17. how frustrating...

Out of the playoffs. I'd like to thank the Steeler's D and Chan Gailey.

popo24 — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 07:21:01 -0700

6.2 combined pts. I lost by 4.

NFL Network's Thursday Night Games are BAD for Fantasy Football

footballjunkie — Thu, 29 Nov 2012 21:56:31 -0700

Raise your hand if NFL Network's Thursday night games are killing your fantasy teams.

Is it the short week or what? But offensive stats are far and few.
Thoughts?

Fantasy Busts 2012-2013

Mile_High_Man — Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:12:29 -0700

Hi Everyone,

Let's talk fantasy busts, who in your mind will not live up to their current ADP and severely disappoint owners in 2012-2013?

With 1 week left, who was the guy that hurt you the most this season.

tmoney — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:17:12 -0700

Every year there always seems to be a player or two that you wished you hadn't drafted. That due to injury or sub par performances has failed to live up to your expectations. For me it's been DeMarco Murray, I've had a revolving door at RB2 since he's been hurt.

So I ask you DC Nation, who was that guy for you?

Who DESTROYED your season this year?

demigodrva — Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:23:35 -0700

Saw earlier a post about who helped teams this year. Let's investigate into the other side of this and ask the question who burned you.

Me personally the combo of cj2k/mcfadden got me off to a 1-5 start and I never recovered... 4-8.

Johnson would be welcomed back again but I will never take any chance with mcfadden again

vernon davis lays second goose egg of the season

msamarch1980 — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:52:50 -0700

Need I say more...

Biggest bust candidate heading into 2013?

Smitty — Tue, 06 Nov 2012 21:56:19 -0700

Let's call it redraft, 2013 only, ppr, and let's say the player has to be a likely top 24 overall player heading into August 2013 drafts.

Dez

ashtin0905 — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:08:18 -0700

Contemplating dropping Dez for Cobb. Anyone have opinion/advice? Thanks much!

Okay to drop Stafford?????

chuckeycharles — Sun, 30 Sep 2012 12:56:49 -0700

Maybe I won't drop him, but, he sure is making it necessary for me to carry 3 QBs. I believe that I would start Fitzpatrick or Dalton next week, even if it wasn't his bye week

I don't have the ability to see what is happening in the Detroit v. Minnesota game, but, Holy Crap... what is wrong with Stafford

In my keeper league (sig), entering this year I kept Julio (for my 5.10), Stafford (for my 9.10) and Lynch (for my 12.01). I was ecstatic.

Since then, the only player that has fulfilled expectations has been Lynch. I am sure glad that I started him in both leagues

Oh... now I see that they gave Stafford his TD back... STILL...

Nate Kaeding

rickok21 — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 18:45:52 -0700

Out for this Sunday!!?? It's one thing after another with this guy. I'm starting to wonder if I should just move on. He's so talented, but I'm not sure he is worth the headache. Thoughts?

What is the deal with Hillis? I Draughn going to take his job?

dunc182 — Tue, 25 Sep 2012 12:56:41 -0700

Hillis is in a boot. Is he going to lose this job?

Cut Justin Blackmon?

dunc182 — Mon, 24 Sep 2012 07:34:29 -0700

Time to cut bait or should I hold him for a few more weeks? I could use a quality backup WR so I am hoping he steps up.

Chris Johnson question

tmoney — Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:16:33 -0700

Is Chris Johnson the worst starting RB in the league? I want nothing to do with that guy. He's not even a buy-low at this point, he's a don't buy. And if you do have him on your team, bench him. Don't ever let him see your starting lineup.

What's up with Stafford?

chuckeycharles — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 00:29:49 -0700

Not sure if this thread should be in the bust category, but.... I'm askeered

This weekend was not just ugly, it was FUGLY

thedude — Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:01:08 -0700

From the highs of 5-1 to the lows of 1-5.

Forte? hurt and out for "weeks"

Hernandez? hurt and our for "weeks"

Marshall? WTF?

Cutler? Really?

McFadden? Seriously?

Chris Johnson? How about a little hustle instead of the Oline whine.

I have one $ league team where my kicker is the highest scoring player (Julio plays later...) 48.6 f'ing points.

What a disaster this weekend was...

Who's on your list?

Whos_Ur_Doggie — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 16:57:13 -0700

I put this in the bust category as most injury risks have the higher potential to bust in any given season. Anyway, lets see your list of players that you feel are "injury risks" as of today. Comments as to why you think they are a risk are welcome. This should be interesting to see.

Jamaal Charles

Tumo — Mon, 23 Jul 2012 06:55:25 -0700

I feel like Jamaal Charles may be a bust this year. I expect about the same amount of carries that most seem to be projecting for him. I've seen many experts projecting him to have 6+ ypc. I found an article listing YPC for running backs in the season (or year before in some cases) the ACL injury occurred and the year following the injury. The YPC following injury on average was 88% of the preinjury YPC. Couple that with his career 6.1 YPC and you get a back with 5.4 YPC. In the projections I am using (I don't do my own I have learned enough to know as a whole I suck at projections), that alone would drop him from RB11 to RB15. Am I out of line or is it rediculous to expect anything beyond 5.5 YPC from Jamaal Charles this year? Personally, I think it is a stretch to expect beyond 5 YPC for a guy coming off an ACL injury even if he did run for 6.3 his last fully healthy season. I am also down on AP for redraft for all of the same reasons, but I expect both to come back at full force in 2013.

I am very curious what you all think.

Tebow worth less than a Punter

Know_Nothing — Sat, 21 Jul 2012 08:56:38 -0700

OK, so I know there are some Tebow fans around here but I think it's time to face some facts. Jacksonville, with all of their issues in putting fans in the seats, jersey sales, uncertainty at the QB position, lowering ticket prices, etc. elected to NOT make a trade for Tim Tebow even though it only cost the Jets a 4th and 6th. If the Jags would have offered a 3rd rd pick to the Broncos a few months back, they could have certainly had him. Not only were they UNWILLING to give up that 3rd, but they used that 3rd rd pick on a PUNTER!!! Seriously, what in the world was that organization thinking about this offseason? Is Tebow really that bad that his hometown team is willing to give up selling tickets, Jerseys and everything else just so they could draft a punter???

I really think it's time to put the speculation to rest that Tebow is going to come out of this season as anything more than a gadget player and career backup QB. If he was viewed as anything more, don't you think that his hometown team would get behind him?

Biggest Big Name Bust in 2012?

Smitty — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:59:45 -0700

Big-time names only!

Players You Believe In

lbouchard — Sat, 14 Jul 2012 17:49:13 -0700

Who are the (big name or not) guys you believe in, that most others seem to doubt?

I'll start it off by saying I fully believe in Cam Newton to improve in total points from last year and for Marshawn Lynch to hold steady in terms of points.

Who are you passing on in a draft?

tmoney — Tue, 19 Jun 2012 21:51:24 -0700

Who are the guys that you are passing on this year, even if they are highly rated?

QBs - Big Ben - I like him better as a QB2, his career stats are very inconsistent.
RBs - Turner, Gore and Steven Jackson - I just see 2 of the 3 breaking down this season.
WR- Roddy White, D-Jax - I think these guys won't live up to their draft status. D-Jax is more hype than production, and Roddy is going to see a significant reduction in targets.
TE-A.Hernandez - McDaniels hasn't been known for utilizing his TEs. Hernandez had a big post season, but Gronk was banged up. And I think with Brandon Lloyd on the roster, Hernandez takes a small step back.

So which guys are you passing on?

Ingram/AJG relation

fontaines — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:10:02 -0700

I know it's only been a year, but with Peyton being out and Brees not having a contract, and Ingram sitting in RB purgatory in NO, considering this discussion was had about AJG or Ingram being the #1 last year, do we consider Ingram a bust IF he doesn't get 1000 yards this season?

Just trying to start some "bust" discussion. I like this forum topic.

Blane gabbert

andr3wl — Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:53:28 -0700

Worth an add if I can get him at the 4.7 rookie/fa pick

Start 1 qb and I currently own stafford and Palmer

With his new coach could he develop? Prob not but figured I would ask

Biggest fantasy bust?

TBL — Sun, 22 Apr 2012 10:43:08 -0700

Some of you guys have been in the fantasy football game for a long time. I've only been involved for 5 years. So lets bring back some bad memories...........who comes to mind as the biggest BUST in fantasy football history? Did you spend your 1st round rookie pick on a player that had all of the hype, but ended up a complete disaster? I'm just curious to see.

Ryan Leaf

rabidbucfan — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 09:18:49 -0700

I know old but in the news -

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/18536142

Moreno

rabidbucfan — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 09:23:06 -0700

"X" put the story in "Breaking News" about Moreno and the bust label fits - what do you all think?

Lets add to the Bust forum.

JRMRRT — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 06:36:03 -0700

Michael Crabtree

I know most will disagree with me but this kid will never live up to his hype coming out of school IMO.

How about this guy!!

JRMRRT — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 14:49:42 -0700

I felt bad for the "Busts" category sitting over there all lonely with nothing in it so I have 2 words for it:

JAMES STARKS!