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  • LukeB5301LukeB5301 November 2013
    Posts: 7,347
    Alright, already know of of your answers here, but play along.. I'm 0-11 in a 2QB Dyno.. 2QB / 3RB / 4WR / 2TE / Non-PPR until 2015(.25ppr) & 2016(.5ppr)

    My Team

    Russell/Keenum/  Eli/Henne/McGloin
    Rice/Spiller/Miller/   Wilson/Ball/Rainey/Pierce
    Hilton/Gordon/Harvin/Torrey/   Hartline/Thompkins/Marlon Brown
    Tim Wright/Rob Housler

    2 2014 1sts/3 2014 2nds/2 2014 3rds

    I've been offered 1.2(guaranteed 1.2)/1.8(ish)/Robert Woods for Gordon

    I sit here and say, no way in hell I can trade Gordon, He's top 5wr IMO. But in a 2 QB dyno I could get the next big rookie QB or RB say Melvin Gordon comes out(Hold the Wis rb crap, I don't care to hear it on this thread) or whatever other big name RB comes out... Also theres Sammy Watkins I could hopefully get with one of those picks....


    Give me some thoughts here, other then the obvious straight up NO.. Thanks



    My 2013 Predictions:
    [:(] C.J. Spiller Will Be The #1RB(Jan 9th)
    [XXX] Demaryius Thomas will be the #1 scoring WR!(Feb 13th)
    [XXX] Trent Richardson will NOT finish as a Top 10 RB!(June 4th)
    [:(] Rob Housler will be a Top 5 TE in 2013!(July 18th)
    [XXX] Josh Gordon will put up a 80/1200/10 stat line in just 14 Games!(Sept 5th)
  • LukeB5301LukeB5301 November 2013
    Posts: 7,347
    In Case You Care His Team:

    Newton/Ryan/    Clemens
    Moreno/Bell/Lynch/    Vereen/Michael/Brown
    Nelson/Decker/Douglas/Randle/   Shorts/Woods/TWilliams
    Olsen/Miller/    Eifert

    1.2/1.3/1.4/1.5/1.8/1.10/2.5 (Crazy Right lol) 

    Already stated he won't trade Michael.Randle,or Vereen with the 2 1sts
    My 2013 Predictions:
    [:(] C.J. Spiller Will Be The #1RB(Jan 9th)
    [XXX] Demaryius Thomas will be the #1 scoring WR!(Feb 13th)
    [XXX] Trent Richardson will NOT finish as a Top 10 RB!(June 4th)
    [:(] Rob Housler will be a Top 5 TE in 2013!(July 18th)
    [XXX] Josh Gordon will put up a 80/1200/10 stat line in just 14 Games!(Sept 5th)
  • fontainesfontaines November 2013
    Posts: 4,353
    i'd do it but counter for 1.2 and 1.5.  

    In a 2 qb league you only get qbs via the draft, and those picks have tremendous value imo.  WR is likley the most devalued position in your format.  
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  • LukeB5301LukeB5301 November 2013
    Posts: 7,347
    fontaines said:

    i'd do it but counter for 1.2 and 1.5.  


    In a 2 qb league you only get qbs via the draft, and those picks have tremendous value imo.  WR is likley the most devalued position in your format.  


    Well I'm not going to ge picky abotu the 1.5-1.10 all of those could go anywhere.. The 1.5-1.8 all have the same record so its give or take who gets what.. his pick(team) his currently the 1.10 which could very easily be the 1.7... I can sit here and look at all the teams and figure out whos going to go where(I have lol) but it's really a crap shoot
    My 2013 Predictions:
    [:(] C.J. Spiller Will Be The #1RB(Jan 9th)
    [XXX] Demaryius Thomas will be the #1 scoring WR!(Feb 13th)
    [XXX] Trent Richardson will NOT finish as a Top 10 RB!(June 4th)
    [:(] Rob Housler will be a Top 5 TE in 2013!(July 18th)
    [XXX] Josh Gordon will put up a 80/1200/10 stat line in just 14 Games!(Sept 5th)
  • MrMarbles November 2013
    Posts: 1,841
    So that would give you 4 1st round picks?  I kinda like that.  Should be some decent QBs coming out next year.

    I hate giving up a known talent in Gordon, but in this case he isn't helping you this year and that would be a stockpile of picks to rebuild with.


  • TheHuddleTheHuddle November 2013
    Posts: 1,487
    Id take that easily.
  • LukeB5301LukeB5301 November 2013
    Posts: 7,347
    Wow I was honestly expecting everyone here to say no... but I have a major boner man crush on Gordon..


    MrMarbles said:

    So that would give you 4 1st round picks?  I kinda like that.  Should be some decent QBs coming out next year.


    I hate giving up a known talent in Gordon, but in this case he isn't helping you this year and that would be a stockpile of picks to rebuild with.




    Yes.. 1.2 and then 3 anywhere from 1.5-1.10.. along with 3 2nds and some 3rds
    My 2013 Predictions:
    [:(] C.J. Spiller Will Be The #1RB(Jan 9th)
    [XXX] Demaryius Thomas will be the #1 scoring WR!(Feb 13th)
    [XXX] Trent Richardson will NOT finish as a Top 10 RB!(June 4th)
    [:(] Rob Housler will be a Top 5 TE in 2013!(July 18th)
    [XXX] Josh Gordon will put up a 80/1200/10 stat line in just 14 Games!(Sept 5th)
  • SweetLewSweetLew November 2013
    Posts: 1,002
    I like it actually...like Fonts said the only way to get stud qbs in a 2qb league is to draft them... when trying to trade for a qb in a 2qb league it seems like you have to always MAJOR overpay to get even a halfway decent qb, so get that stud qb BEFORE he becomes a stud imo.
  • MrMarbles November 2013
    Posts: 1,841
    The other thing I look at is the value of those picks as the draft gets closer.  You might be able to flip one of them back into a solid WR anyways and still get a QB.

    I'd prefer Shorts to Woods in the deal but that's splitting hairs.

    And if that is Bryce Brown for his RBs I'd start to target him for loooong term value.  His contract is up in 2015 but he has all the makings of a RB1 IMO.

    BTW...you guys start a ton of players
  • LukeB5301LukeB5301 November 2013
    Posts: 7,347
    MrMarbles said:

    The other thing I look at is the value of those picks as the draft gets closer.  You might be able to flip one of them back into a solid WR anyways and still get a QB.


    I'd prefer Shorts to Woods in the deal but that's splitting hairs.

    And if that is Bryce Brown for his RBs I'd start to target him for loooong term value.  His contract is up in 2015 but he has all the makings of a RB1 IMO.

    BTW...you guys start a ton of players


    I don't want shorts, really dont like Woods either though

    no it's Andre Brown..

    And I know way to many players considering we only have 10 Bench spots... also it's only a 10 team league
    My 2013 Predictions:
    [:(] C.J. Spiller Will Be The #1RB(Jan 9th)
    [XXX] Demaryius Thomas will be the #1 scoring WR!(Feb 13th)
    [XXX] Trent Richardson will NOT finish as a Top 10 RB!(June 4th)
    [:(] Rob Housler will be a Top 5 TE in 2013!(July 18th)
    [XXX] Josh Gordon will put up a 80/1200/10 stat line in just 14 Games!(Sept 5th)
  • MrMarbles November 2013
    Posts: 1,841
    Ah ok.....I like Shorts with all the targets he gets.  I think he is underrated.
  • LukeB5301LukeB5301 November 2013
    Posts: 7,347
    MrMarbles said:

    Ah ok.....I like Shorts with all the targets he gets.  I think he is underrated.



    Underrated yes, but I don't think he has the upside of say a Woods or Williams
    My 2013 Predictions:
    [:(] C.J. Spiller Will Be The #1RB(Jan 9th)
    [XXX] Demaryius Thomas will be the #1 scoring WR!(Feb 13th)
    [XXX] Trent Richardson will NOT finish as a Top 10 RB!(June 4th)
    [:(] Rob Housler will be a Top 5 TE in 2013!(July 18th)
    [XXX] Josh Gordon will put up a 80/1200/10 stat line in just 14 Games!(Sept 5th)
  • LukeB5301LukeB5301 November 2013
    Posts: 7,347
    Ugh, still struggling with this more then I should lol
    My 2013 Predictions:
    [:(] C.J. Spiller Will Be The #1RB(Jan 9th)
    [XXX] Demaryius Thomas will be the #1 scoring WR!(Feb 13th)
    [XXX] Trent Richardson will NOT finish as a Top 10 RB!(June 4th)
    [:(] Rob Housler will be a Top 5 TE in 2013!(July 18th)
    [XXX] Josh Gordon will put up a 80/1200/10 stat line in just 14 Games!(Sept 5th)
  • donvaughndonvaughn November 2013
    Posts: 452
    I think the Gordon situation will frustrate you. He's obviously got the talent, but he may be a couple years away from realizing his potential. Keep in mind, he could still get suspended for a whole year, he's shown that he's frustrated without a top qb, and the qb situation is still sketchy next year. Woods could grow together with Manuel and could develop into an upside WR3. He was awesome at USC. So I still would rather have Gordon going forward, but given the risk involved, if the price was right I'd do it. It would also give you a lot of flexibility on draft day. You could essentially do a sign and trade with any team looking to move back into the first round.
  • LukeB5301LukeB5301 November 2013
    Posts: 7,347
    Ugh... I think I'm pressing decline.. it's tough and I could prolly package some picks to move up again and get Bridgewater and Watkins... such I tough decision but if Gordon gets a QB this year Top 5 is easy imo
    My 2013 Predictions:
    [:(] C.J. Spiller Will Be The #1RB(Jan 9th)
    [XXX] Demaryius Thomas will be the #1 scoring WR!(Feb 13th)
    [XXX] Trent Richardson will NOT finish as a Top 10 RB!(June 4th)
    [:(] Rob Housler will be a Top 5 TE in 2013!(July 18th)
    [XXX] Josh Gordon will put up a 80/1200/10 stat line in just 14 Games!(Sept 5th)
  • TheHuddleTheHuddle November 2013
    Posts: 1,487
    Noooooo. W/ this many starters needed you should be able to replace Gordon's value w these picks.

    Have him throw in eifert if u can as your TE's r weak especially for a start 2. Good luck w your decision.
  • LukeB5301LukeB5301 November 2013
    Posts: 7,347
    Those picks can replace a top 5 wr? (He's top 5 ppg we right now)

    & no eifert, he says this is his final offer
    My 2013 Predictions:
    [:(] C.J. Spiller Will Be The #1RB(Jan 9th)
    [XXX] Demaryius Thomas will be the #1 scoring WR!(Feb 13th)
    [XXX] Trent Richardson will NOT finish as a Top 10 RB!(June 4th)
    [:(] Rob Housler will be a Top 5 TE in 2013!(July 18th)
    [XXX] Josh Gordon will put up a 80/1200/10 stat line in just 14 Games!(Sept 5th)
  • branch0095 November 2013
    Posts: 4,226
    I think you have to do this trade in a 2QB league, with the QBs coming out this year. The 1.2 will guarantee you either Watkins or the 2nd QB in this class. You may even get the #1 QB in the class. That is huge in a 2QB league.Plus you get another solid 1st. I like Gordon a lot, but the potential value of a franchise QB in a 2QB league is too much to pass up. In a 1 QB league I would be on the fence, but in this format I do the trade.
    2013 predictions

    -Cobb outscores Harvin in PPR
    -Chris Ivory will be a top 15RB
    -Kenny Britt finishes outside the top 20WRs
  • dunlap13dunlap13 November 2013
    Posts: 1,756
    I think if and when clevland drafts a qb like a manziel hes going to become one of those top recievers we mention.
    .5 ppr 10 Team Dynasty: 1 Qb, 2 Rb, 3 Wr, 1 Rb/Wr, 1 Te

    Peyton Manning

    CJ Spiller, Leveon Bell, Demarco Murray, Shane Vereen, Lamar Miller, Bernard Peirce, Christine Michael Johnathan Franklin

    Dez Bryant, Josh Gordon, Randall Cobb, Alshon Jeffery, Jarrett Boykin

    Kyle Rudolph, Martellus Bennett

    1.4 1.10 2.10 3.10
  • LukeB5301LukeB5301 November 2013
    Posts: 7,347
    dunlap13 said:

    I think if and when clevland drafts a qb like a manziel hes going to become one of those top recievers we mention.



    That's my main worry here...

    Just think if 1.1 is clowny and 1.2 is Atlanta abd they trade with Cleveland.. Bridgewater to Gordon
    My 2013 Predictions:
    [:(] C.J. Spiller Will Be The #1RB(Jan 9th)
    [XXX] Demaryius Thomas will be the #1 scoring WR!(Feb 13th)
    [XXX] Trent Richardson will NOT finish as a Top 10 RB!(June 4th)
    [:(] Rob Housler will be a Top 5 TE in 2013!(July 18th)
    [XXX] Josh Gordon will put up a 80/1200/10 stat line in just 14 Games!(Sept 5th)
  • SweetLewSweetLew November 2013
    Posts: 1,002
    Is Teddy B definitely coming out this year? Heard rumors he wasn't.
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