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NEWS: Johnny Manziel inks four-year deal; Brian Hoyer to enter camp as starter?
  • SystemSystem
    Posts: 9
    NEWS: Johnny Manziel inks four-year deal; Brian Hoyer to enter camp as starter? NEWS: Johnny Manziel inks four-year deal; Brian Hoyer to enter camp as starter?
    http://blog.fantasyfootballstarters.com/news-johnny-manziel-inks-four-year-deal-brian-hoyer-enter-camp-starter/

    Johnny Manziel inks a four-year deal with the Browns, but Brian Hoyer looks like the team's starter entering camp. Ben Tate and Terrance West to succeed?

  • SmittySmitty June 17
    Posts: 8,467
    Manziel or Hoyer, who starts?

    Tate or West, who starts?

    Tate or West, who leads the team in carries at season's end?
    - Smitty | Owner/Founder
  • Xtreme June 17
    Posts: 382
    only CLE player I like personally is J.Cameron (unless of couse J.Gordon ever sees the field again)
  • LukeB5301LukeB5301 June 17
    Posts: 8,854
    I've been saying this all offseason, the Hoyer love is out of control, The guy had ONE good game last year, ONE(269 2TDs 0INT)! He had 1 decent game vs the Vikings but the 3 INTs that game kinda kills that not to mention 146 of his 321 yards that game went to Gordon who won't be there. I can name you a lot of QBs in the NFL that have put together 1-2 good games then faded away.

    0% chance Hoyer is starter week 1 IMO, barring injury. The fans would go nuts if they benched JF IMO ala Tim Tebow.
    My 2014 Predictions:
    [ ] Jordan Matthews Will Win OROY(June 5th)
  • dunlap13dunlap13 June 17
    Posts: 2,257
    Manziel
    Tate
    .5 ppr 10 Team Keeper: 1 Qb, 2 Rb, 3 Wr, 1 Rb/Wr, 1 Te

    Matt Ryan

    CJ Spiller, Leveon Bell, Bernard Peirce, Christine Michael Johnathan Franklin

    Dez Bryant, Josh Gordon, Randall Cobb, DT

    Julius Thomas

    1.02
  • cheche June 17
    Posts: 688
    JF
    Tate

    Looks like my Hoyer dreams are over?
  • SmittySmitty June 17
    Posts: 8,467
    cheche said:

    JF
    Tate

    Looks like my Hoyer dreams are over?



    Without Gordon, Manziel (a runner and passer) might be more effective. I wouldn't write either off. Hoyer has skills IMO. Manziel does as well, it's not hard to imagine either being the guy. Having both is good for the team. If they had Gordon, wow... Gordon, Cameron.. Two elite capable backs, two big upside passers... Gordon screwed Cleveland.
    - Smitty | Owner/Founder
  • cheche June 17
    Posts: 688
    Smitty said:

    cheche said:

    JF
    Tate

    Looks like my Hoyer dreams are over?



    Without Gordon, Manziel (a runner and passer) might be more effective. I wouldn't write either off. Hoyer has skills IMO. Manziel does as well, it's not hard to imagine either being the guy. Having both is good for the team. If they had Gordon, wow... Gordon, Cameron.. Two elite capable backs, two big upside passers... Gordon screwed Cleveland.


    Let's hope Gordon catches a break and gets to play a good part of the year!!
  • SmittySmitty June 17
    Posts: 8,467
    cheche said:

    Smitty said:

    cheche said:

    JF
    Tate

    Looks like my Hoyer dreams are over?



    Without Gordon, Manziel (a runner and passer) might be more effective. I wouldn't write either off. Hoyer has skills IMO. Manziel does as well, it's not hard to imagine either being the guy. Having both is good for the team. If they had Gordon, wow... Gordon, Cameron.. Two elite capable backs, two big upside passers... Gordon screwed Cleveland.


    Let's hope Gordon catches a break and gets to play a good part of the year!!


    I bet the odds are better that the Titans or Raiders or Dolphins will win the Super Bowl...
    - Smitty | Owner/Founder
  • LukeB5301LukeB5301 June 17
    Posts: 8,854
    Smitty said:

    cheche said:

    JF
    Tate

    Looks like my Hoyer dreams are over?



    Without Gordon, Manziel (a runner and passer) might be more effective. I wouldn't write either off. Hoyer has skills IMO. Manziel does as well, it's not hard to imagine either being the guy. Having both is good for the team. If they had Gordon, wow... Gordon, Cameron.. THREE elite capable backs, two big upside passers... Gordon screwed Cleveland.


    Fixed it for you :)
    My 2014 Predictions:
    [ ] Jordan Matthews Will Win OROY(June 5th)
  • SmittySmitty June 17
    Posts: 8,467
    Lol
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  • Wutthecrapman June 17
    Posts: 10,623
    Manziel is the starting QB week one.

    Tate is the starting RB week one only to go down to injury opening the way to West keeping the job, say maybe week 4 or 5.

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  • tmoney June 17
    Posts: 3,626
    I'm starting to think that Cleveland goes RBBC.  Tate's injury history is well documented, so I doubt that they would want to hand him a heavy load.
  • Whos_Ur_Doggie June 18
    Posts: 13,592
    Cleveland is gonna run a ton in 2014 IMO.  Tate and West could see 150 plus touches each running the rock in a RBBC.
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  • SwampiesSwampies June 18
    Posts: 4,488
    I'll tell you what, I would still want Hoyer because if Cleveland doesn't want him he's primed to start somewhere else! Wouldn't doubt if the Vikings took him in Case Bridgewater didn't pan out!
    My league is a non PPR 12 person league having a roster of 19 players each. Active roster includes 1Qb 2Rb's 3Wr's 1Te 1K 1Def. Two weeks before draft we cut the roster down to 9 keepers. My team as of now:
    QB Nick Foles, Russell Wilson, Josh McCown
    RB Lamar Miller, Shane Vereen, Zac Stacy, Cierre Wood
    WR AJ Green, Julio Jones, Josh Gordon, Rueben Randle, Kenny Stills
    TE Z Ertz, M. Bennett, Delanie Walker
    DEF Kansas City, Cleveland
    K Steven Hauschka

    (I'm not a expert but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!)
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  • fontaines June 18
    Posts: 5,296
    Whos_Ur_Doggie said:

    Cleveland is gonna run a ton in 2014 IMO.  Tate and West could see 150 plus touches each running the rock in a RBBC.




    I'm thinking that is low.....maybe 200 each.  Browns with no Gordon means run run run.  Their Defense can slow down a game i think that will be their plan 2014
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  • donvaughndonvaughn June 18
    Posts: 2,383
    Yeah I've been holding the Hoyer love in check all off season as well. Been following him a long time as the backup in NE. He's very smart with a decent arm, but projects as a career backup imo. He may be able to find a role as a game manager and who knows, maybe have a McCown/Gannon career later on, but I think they start with Hoyer and go to Manziel by wk 6
  • Whos_Ur_Doggie June 18
    Posts: 13,592
    fontaines said:

    Whos_Ur_Doggie said:

    Cleveland is gonna run a ton in 2014 IMO.  Tate and West could see 150 plus touches each running the rock in a RBBC.




    I'm thinking that is low.....maybe 200 each.  Browns with no Gordon means run run run.  Their Defense can slow down a game i think that will be their plan 2014


    Yeah, I figured there would be about 150 rushing touches going to guys other than Tate/West.
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