Gio vs Ball - THE definitive answer

We've all skirted around the issue and now it's time to finally tackle the biggest question of our lives. Haimez will say Gio. Junkie will say Ball. Lets hear it and why.

I go Ball. Should have immediate production. Plays on a high powered offense that will give him good running opportunities and lots of goal line carries.

Ball...I don't think BGE is going anywhere...

Isn't that why they dr

Troy_Polamalyourass said:

Ball...I don't think BGE is going anywhere...

isn't that why they drafted geo?? ;)

IDK. I personally thought CIN RB was going to be the 1.1. We all hyped up Gio before the draft. The OC is talking about 10-15 carries and 8 catches and a few returns a game.

John Fox doesn't like rookie RBs. I just keep thinking about what he did to J Stewart. Ball is a TD machine, but we all know Manning LOVES padding his stats and it's not like DEN will run exclusively in the 5.

It's close, but right now i think i might go Gio

Bernard for me

Ball for now, that's pretty obvis, but Gio is the most talented all round back in the draft, imo despite what others may think. He's have the better career. Keep in mind they also thought Matt Barkley and 8 WRs would be selected in the first round. So I'm not the crazy one here...

I have both BJGE and hillman so I'd have both handcuffs for either. I'm thinking Gio might be better for me because BJGE can hold me over until next yr once Gio takes over. And according to Smitty BJGE is supposed up be a top 20 RB himself so perhaps CIN RB is the way to go.

Ball- I see cinci being rbbc. BJGE isnt going anywhere and will get early down work/ goal line touches. I believe ball will get three down back carries by mid season. Ik Elway isnt making the play calls but when he says he sees t.d in ball it has to mean something. I dont see mcgahee playng alot if he makes the cut.

I will be going Ball..but I have Hillman...

Everyone seems to have forgotten a major aspect. BenJarvis Green-Ellis is just an average talent. His best trait is that he hardly every fumbles. Will he stretch out a long run? Never, Will he juke out defenders? Never. Is he a threat in the passing game? Never.

Trade the pick.

Montee Ball.

BJGE is indeed an average talent like stated above but he's a productive/safe/secure average talent. He certainly doesn't have the skill to keep Gio on the bench but he's strong enough to eat into his overall carries.... especially in goal line and short yardage situations. Gio has the skill set to score from anywhere on the field and I feel he's going to need it in order to see the end zone this year.

Ball will have to contend with the oft injured and overall bust in Moreno for lead dog carries and will share some 3rd down duties with Hillman. Manning is going to force defenses to be honest allowing Ball to take advantage of weak fronts and check downs. I don't expect astronomical numbers in his rookie campaign but he'll be rock solid. I've been watching him for 3 years and really don't see a glaring weakness in his game... he's not flashy in any area but he's solid in every area.

Bernard for me. There's something about big 10 college backs that's not right for the NFL.. Shonn Greene and Chris Wells are recent examples of big 10 backs, along with uber bust Ron Dayne. I expect disappointing seasons from both Ball & Bell.

Scorp said:

Bernard for me. There's something about big 10 college backs that's not right for the NFL.. Shonn Greene and Chris Wells are recent examples of big 10 backs, along with uber bust Ron Dayne. I expect disappointing seasons from both Ball & Bell.

Ugh, we been down this road before. Not every back in the big 10 are busts.

I was Haimez band wagon in March when he said who ever Cincinnati got in the draft at RB will be one to get. Gio was drafted and I believe he's in a great situation on a very young team with a coach that likes to have balance with the running game. As for Ball he's on a team that is in a win now mode because of their QB has a expiration date. And a coach Fox that will leave when Peyton leaves too I believe. Which leaves Ball on team that could change very soon. IMO this why I think Gio upside is better.

Gio will be the better of the 3 2 years from now

Lets see Ray Rice or Jonathan Stewart? I will take Gio by a landslide. I honestly have no idea how anybody could prefer Ball over Gio. Everybody can have their own opinion I understand, but it seems so obvious to me. Gio is going to be a PPR monster. Ball will get TD's and little yardage with #2RB upside, while Gio could be a beast. That is way I see it. I have been wrong before, but I'm confident in this one. Plus the mileage on Ball's tires are balding.

Edit: Who honestly thinks BJE is worth drafting high in a dynasty format? I can understand as a low end #2, solid #3 this year but outside that this is a downhill slide unless he moves on. He has as much chance of keeping that starting gig as Chester Taylor did when Peterson came on.LOL (situation not skills, settle down)

haimez40 said:

Lets see Ray Rice or Jonathan Stewart? I will take Gio by a landslide. I honestly have no idea how anybody could prefer Ball over Gio. Everybody can have their own opinion I understand, but it seems so obvious to me. Gio is going to be a PPR monster. Ball will get TD's and little yardage with #2RB upside, while Gio could be a beast. That is way I see it. I have been wrong before, but I'm confident in this one. Plus the mileage on Ball's tires are balding.

If you look at carries in college, Rice and Ball had very similar numbers so you really can't use that against him. So did AP, Steven Jackson and LT

I could be wrong, but I am almost certaib AP did not have near the carries Rice and Ball had in college...I will need to look at that to know for sure. With that said, I believe the number of carries in college has very little weight on whether or not a RB will be good/longevity.

Rice lt sjaxx are just some of the few that had more carries than ball and then their careers are still good...

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