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HellAtlantic said:Alex Smith turned Vernon into a star. He likes throwing to his safety valve. So it's out of Andy's hands - if Kelce is that good then they can't afford not to use him because on receiving its only Bowe out there.
krazybel1975 said:andy reids offenses don't breed GREAT TE production, just ok. so his uppside is limited by the play calling. also kc's line is bad, even with fischer so staying in to block is gonna be a necessity for him. I am always leery of guys who blow it up at camp in half speed practices..junkie is right he is a better blocker than a pass catcher.
LukeB5301 said:76/971/8 ... That's a pretty damn good year for a te... like really good.. 2009 brent celek Under reid
Thats some pretty good research. celek also had another pretty good year(not as good as that one) and chad lewis had a pretty good year under reid once too.
3 out of 14 years of pretty good te production isn't exactly a good track record. if alex smith doesn't throw the ball where power hungry andy wants it alex smith won't be playing for very long. Alex smith is still alex smith and he sucks, so i can't wait to see how this train wreck ends when andy has him passing 40 times a game.
krazybel1975 said:this is conference usa the big east he's playing against. it like a man amongst boys. things change when every dude you are playing against is a stud. just my opinion
Reisssox said:krazybel1975 said:
I agree...Talent but not in Tylers class...
yup, total brain fart, your are right big east, these damn schools switch so often I get confused. So many players fail that scouts think will be good based of college tape. so many players are also awesome and have great college tape. it's a crap shoot. I only evaluate nfl talent against other nfl talent in real games, that is the only true way to evaluate these guys. I'm not saying kelce gonna be wack, I'm just giving you something to ponder. I'd much rather pick up a cameron or a housler, than a kelce til I can see him line up in an nfl game.rickok21 said:Fixed that for you. So I'm supposed to ignore all these reports of him making highlight-reel catches in practice because these practices are 'half speed' and I'm supposed to ignore his college tape because it was against inferior competition. So how do you evaluate a player? Magic 8 ball?
Reisssox said:
krazybel1975 said:
krazybel1975 said:rickok21 said:I'd much rather pick up a cameron or a housler, than a kelce til I can see him line up in an nfl game.