Giovanni Bernard

Figured we need a thread for Gio. Drafted in a great situation and should be a PPR monster(2 pts per PPR for me in my league). Thoughts on Gio now and going forward? How about compared to the RB's in this class? Smiity feel free to chime in :D

zeeshan2 said:

Figured we need a thread for Gio. Drafted in a great situation and should be a PPR monster(2 pts per PPR for me in my league). Thoughts on Gio now and going forward? How about compared to the RB's in this class? Smiity feel free to chime in :D

Well you know how I feel I imagine based on all my rookie write ups, but any doubt I have about him isn't really due to ability, just that his situation isn't as for sure (at least this year) as others suggest. The team has even said they view him as a third down back, not the starter. That could change, heck, Arian Foster wasn't drafted to start... so you aren't wrong in thinking Gio could be an every down back in this league, he could... and you aren't wrong liking him over all rookies in this class, it's all very arguable. I myself just see him as a guy that could develop into a high end RB2, so lets say a future second rounds staple in fantasy football, but 1-2 years from now. Or, maybe next year. This year? Tough to say, I think he needs an injury from Green-Ellis to get in there, which could happen. If starting, I do like him a lot.

By the way, zeeshan2, glad to have you on DraftCalc, keep bringing it strong like this! 10 posts in and creating some great topics!

By the way, zeeshan2, glad to have you on DraftCalc, keep bringing it strong like this! 10 posts in and creating some great topics!

Thank you, man. Love this site; gives me the edge over my fellow league mates! Of course I am just a free member so I don't have access to the write ups/analysis on the rookies this year or the upside board. You and I are friends on Facebook as well so that's always a plus :D.

I lost Ray Rice this year in my dynasty league due to a contract situation and I have Doug Martin as my other back. I own the 1.2 and have Marshall and Garcon as my WR's and Luck as my QB and we are required to start 2 RB's. I am really leaning towards drafting Gio though; if you think about it, he's not really that small. He's 10 pounds away from being the same size as Ray Rice( Rice is 5'8'' and 215 pounds while Gio is 203 pounds with the same height)

I understand you have Ball and Bell as your best rookies this year( saw your video on youtube) and Hopkins as your top 5 WR in the future. Just wish there was more love for Gio. Even Gruden said he's a ''unique back with the skill set that doesn't have to be a 25-carry guy," is how Gruden described Bernard. "He can be a 10-15 carry guy, catch eight balls, whatever it is, to help us out and make us more diverse." Gruden does believe Bernard offers "three-down" tools.''

CJ Spiller isn't that guy to have a lot of carries and even AP was a two down RB as a rookie.

i had the 1.3 over all pick and i took the Nard Dog and did some youtubing and googling (bored at work) def like his spot with the bengals and see him possibly passing BGE next season at the lastest. He does have some good hands on him and his always falling forward. Loved that clutch punt return TD he had against NC state with under a minute left to win the game.

If I had 1.1 I would take Gio without hesitation and be happy. The fact he could drop to 1.3 in some drafts is great value. I think he is going to be a stud and hard to keep off the field even this year.

Anyone else worried he could just be a change of pace back? Gruden said he will be competing for 3rd down work and that doesn't sound so optimistic for Gio

zeeshan2 said:

Anyone else worried he could just be a change of pace back? Gruden said he will be competing for 3rd down work and that doesn't sound so optimistic for Gio

Adrian Peterson was going to be slowly transitioned in behind Chestor Taylor also until he broke off a 60 screen in the first game and the rest was history. Gio could be hit or miss this year, but I fully expect him by fantasy playoffs to be a nice starter. He has high upside.

Bernard doesnt look anything like what AP looked like on the practice field as a rookie though. AP would have pushed out Taylor real quick regardless of that TD catch. Id bet everyone knew AP was going to be elite 5 minutes into his first practice.

He's been compared a lot to Ray Rice. And I strongly believe he has the ability to be an every down back in this league. Next year is when it should take into effect. He may just need conditioning and put on 5 or so pounds. Future looks bright.

JRMRRT said:

Bernard doesnt look anything like what AP looked like on the practice field as a rookie though. AP would have pushed out Taylor real quick regardless of that TD catch. Id bet everyone knew AP was going to be elite 5 minutes into his first practice.

I never once said they where similar, just the fact that the Vikings BS everybody saying they where going to bring him along slowly. Long story short they are easing the rookie into the system without all the added pressure. It makes it easier for everybody. Plus if he hits a road block it doesn't look like he regressed. I think Gio has top 5 overall upside(please don't name names, a lot can happen in a year ask MJD).

haimez40 said:

JRMRRT said:

Bernard doesnt look anything like what AP looked like on the practice field as a rookie though. AP would have pushed out Taylor real quick regardless of that TD catch. Id bet everyone knew AP was going to be elite 5 minutes into his first practice.

I never once said they where similar, just the fact that the Vikings BS everybody saying they where going to bring him along slowly. Long story short they are easing the rookie into the system without all the added pressure. It makes it easier for everybody. Plus if he hits a road block it doesn't look like he regressed. I think Gio has top 5 overall upside(please don't name names, a lot can happen in a year ask MJD).

I know you arent saying they are similar but I think if AP turned out to be a change of pace type player everyone would be dumbfounded but if Bernard turned out to be one it wouldn't surprise many. It was BS when the Vikings said it but prob not so much with Bernard.

I see what your saying. Although I also think Chestor Taylor was way better than BGE. That is turning this into a whole different argument and getting away from topic though. I just think Gio is going to be a stud is all, like top NFL player stud.

I honestly don't see how people don't think Gio is the 1.1. The landing spot was perfect and the offense is really going to be something special.

I like all 3 of the top rookie RBs. I think all 3 landed in good situations making up for a weak draft and non-elite level talent (I dont see a truly elite player in this draft).

Rex Burkhead, another guy the Bengals drafted is no slouch either; he was highly productive in college and did better in almost every category in the combine than Gio. Reports were pre draft that Gio is constantly overmatched because of lack of size and strength. What if Burkhead does beat out Gio for 3rd down duties?

JRMRRT said:

(I dont see a truly elite player in this draft).

This, however to me, (imo) Gio is the closest thing to it.

Rex Burkhead...please. He'll have a small role with the Bengals...if he is lucky.

I am just saying he does lack the size to be a counted for a lot of carries but if you are willing to draft him and be patient for 2 years when BJGE is a free agent or even before that, then all the merrier for you. Gio is talented, no doubt.

zeeshan2 said:

Rex Burkhead, another guy the Bengals drafted is no slouch either; he was highly productive in college and did better in almost every category in the combine than Gio. Reports were pre draft that Gio is constantly overmatched because of lack of size and strength. What if Burkhead does beat out Gio for 3rd down duties?

That would be shocking.

What if Hillman beat out Ball?

Wutthecrapman said:

What if Hillman beat out Ball?

Shocking as well.

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