• wiseguy August 10

  Posts: 131

  How do they rank at this point? I will probably miss out on all rookie RB so looking at one of these guys in the draft. Also, which one is better trade bait by mid season for a play-off team that doesn't need another WR?
• branch0095 August 10

  Posts: 3,519

  Hopkins, Patterson, Austin for me.

  Hopkins has been my WR1 for this rookie class since before the draft. I admittedly was low on Patterson due to how raw he is, but he's really grown on me, and in one instance I overpaid to acquire him on one of my teams. Austin honestly scares me. It's a combination of him stature and his situation. Not saying his situation is bad, but there are plenty of people out there expecting Austin to be a mid WR2 in PPR this year. I think those owners will be disappointed. STL has a ton of young talent, and to a certain extent I think the will cancel each other out fantasy wise. At least for this season.

  2013 predictions
  
  -Cobb outscores Harvin in PPR
  -Chris Ivory will be a top 15RB
  -Kenny Britt finishes outside the top 20WRs
• meast August 10

  Posts: 1,204

  branch0095 said:

  Hopkins, Patterson, Austin for me.

  
  

  
  
  This!
• chuckeycharles August 10

  Posts: 1,904

  Word in StL is that the Rams expect a different Austin (Pettis) to be the starter. I think Givens emerges along with Quick who looked pretty good on Thursday.

  
  

  Tavon will get his touches, but, I think they will come from all over the place and that some of his touches won't generate any direct fantasy points for his owners

  ---- Both Leagues - Start QB - RB - RB/WR - WR - WR/TE - TE - K - DST - All TD = 6 / Pass Yd = .04 / Rush-Rec Yd = .10 / No-PPR / No Bonuses ----
  ---- 10 Team Limited Keeper (2 or 3) QB - Ryan, N.Foles / RB - Spiller, Miller, L.Bell, FJax, B.Powell, J.Bell / WR - Hilton, Jennings, Hopkins / TE - Graham, J.Thomas / DST - Dolphins / K - Akers ----
  ----10 Team Dynasty QB - Wilson, Eli, Locker(Inj), T.Pryor / RB - ADP, McCoy, T.Rich, Lynch, Vereen(Inj), Turbin, JaQuizz / WR - AJG, Dez, Cruz, Fitz, Harvin(Inj), Britt, Hopkins, D.Moore, Patterson / TE - Gronk, J. Thomas, Rudolph, M.Bennett, Clay / K - Walsh / DST - Colts, Dolphins -----
• boobam13 August 10

  Posts: 716

  From the results of the first preseason game...
  
  Hopkins
  Patterson
  Austin
  

  12 Team Dynasty - PPR and IDP
  QB - ALuck, PRivers, M Vick
  RB - DMartin, JCharles, TRich, MJames, RTurbin, CMicheal, KDavis, CWood, TChoice, DBrown, KWillams, MFord, JDwyer, DJohnson, DHerron, JFranklin
  WR - VCruz, ABrown, VJack, DHopkins, PHarvin, JBoyce
  TE - GOlsen, CJordan
  K - Walsh
  DL - LHouston, RQuinn
  LB - NBowman, DSmith, DWashington, DButler, VWilliams
  DB - JCyprien, RJones
  TAXI - KCousins, SDraughn, MLeshoure, CGray, FWhittaker, TReddick
  IR - DLewis, MHardesty
  2014 Rookie/FA Picks - 3 - 2nds, 2 - 3rds, 3 - 4ths, 4 - 5ths
  2015 Rookie/FA Picks - 2 - 1sts, 1 - 2nd, 3 - 3rds, 2 - 4ths, 1 - 5th, 1 - 6th
• garyzab August 10

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  Hopkins, Patters, and Austin in that order.  Keep an eye on Kendrell Thompkins though, he might out produce all of them at least this season if his relationship with Brady continues to grow.
  

  DC6
  
  Qb RG3, Locker
  Wr DT, Shorts, Givens, Austin, Harper, Stills, Vince Brown, TJ Graham
  Rb Forte, Reggie Bush, Vereen, Turbin, Pead, LMJ
  Te Davis, Cameron, Myers
  K Blair Walsh
  Def Packers, Patriots
• zeeshan2 August 10

  Posts: 1,118

  Hop, Pat and then Austin. Rams will run a spread the wealth offense this year
• robbyrobdu August 10

  Posts: 670

  I like them all, but I have it:

  
  

  Patterson

  Hopkins

  Austin

  
  

  For just this year I think Austin still has the best shot to explode, but Patterson is right there, looked amazing last night!

  garyzab said:

  Hopkins, Patters, and Austin in that order.  Keep an eye on KenBrell Thompkins though, he might out produce all of them at least this season if his relationship with Brady continues to grow.
  

  
  
  
  

  16 Team 40 Man IDP/DST BIG PLAY LEAGUE
  In 5th Year
  
  QB Tom Brady, Russell Wilson
  RB Adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch
  RB/WR LeSean McCoy, Ahmad Bradshaw
  WR Marques Colston, Larry Fitzgerald, Wes Welker
  WR/TE Michael Crabtree, Mike Wallace
  TE Jimmy Graham, Rob Gronkowski
  DT Derek Wolfe, Henry Melton
  DE Jared Allen, Whitney Mercilus
  LB London Fletcher, Patrick Willis, Von Miller
  CB Devin McCourty,Jason McCourty
  S Morgan Burnett, Kenny Phillips
  DP Wesley Woodyard
  D/ST Giants, Rams
  K Randy Bullock
  Bench Colin Kaepernick, Toby Gerhart, Mike Tolbert, Travaris Cadet, Michael Smith, Andre Roberts, Rob Housler, Michael Floyd, Vince Young, Damaris Johnson, Nate Irving, Nick Roach, Kellen Winslow, Kenbrell Thompkins, Cierre Wood
• pemo August 10

  Posts: 870

  robbyrobdu said:

  I like them all, but I have it:

  
  

  Patterson

  Hopkins

  Austin

  
  

  For just this year I think Austin still has the best shot to explode, but Patterson is right there, looked amazing last night!

  garyzab said:

  Hopkins, Patters, and Austin in that order.  Keep an eye on KenBrell Thompkins though, he might out produce all of them at least this season if his relationship with Brady continues to grow.
  

  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  

  I really liked how Hopkins looked as well.  I think he will be the passing red zone threat for that team this year pretty easily.

  Predictions
  
  [ ] Percy Harvin will be a top 5 PPR wide receiver, outscoring Cobb
  [ ] Danny Amendola will be a top 15 PPR wide receiver
  [ ] Russel Wilson will be a top 4 QB
  [ ] Denario Alexander will be a top 15 PPR WR
• robbyrobdu August 10

  Posts: 670

  pemo said:

  robbyrobdu said:

  I like them all, but I have it:

  
  

  Patterson

  Hopkins

  Austin

  
  

  For just this year I think Austin still has the best shot to explode, but Patterson is right there, looked amazing last night!

  garyzab said:

  Hopkins, Patters, and Austin in that order.  Keep an eye on KenBrell Thompkins though, he might out produce all of them at least this season if his relationship with Brady continues to grow.
  

  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  

  I really liked how Hopkins looked as well.  I think he will be the passing red zone threat for that team this year pretty easily.

  
  
  Agreed! 

  
  

  I just think in a ReDraft the situation in HOU for another WR is about as bad as it gets. Arguably top 5 WR and top 5 TE on a run-heavy team makes it tough.

  
  

  That said talent winds out eventually, but will it be in time for the fantasy playoffs?

  
  

  In Dynasty all three of these guys are must-haves. All the leagues I play in reward return yardage and have ppr and ppc making the versatility of Patterson slightly more appealing to me, as well as Austin for just this year.

  16 Team 40 Man IDP/DST BIG PLAY LEAGUE
  In 5th Year
  
  QB Tom Brady, Russell Wilson
  RB Adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch
  RB/WR LeSean McCoy, Ahmad Bradshaw
  WR Marques Colston, Larry Fitzgerald, Wes Welker
  WR/TE Michael Crabtree, Mike Wallace
  TE Jimmy Graham, Rob Gronkowski
  DT Derek Wolfe, Henry Melton
  DE Jared Allen, Whitney Mercilus
  LB London Fletcher, Patrick Willis, Von Miller
  CB Devin McCourty,Jason McCourty
  S Morgan Burnett, Kenny Phillips
  DP Wesley Woodyard
  D/ST Giants, Rams
  K Randy Bullock
  Bench Colin Kaepernick, Toby Gerhart, Mike Tolbert, Travaris Cadet, Michael Smith, Andre Roberts, Rob Housler, Michael Floyd, Vince Young, Damaris Johnson, Nate Irving, Nick Roach, Kellen Winslow, Kenbrell Thompkins, Cierre Wood
• JRMRRT August 10

  Posts: 10,774

  Redraft - Austin. Patterson, Hopkins

  
  

  Dynasty - Hopkins, Patterson, Austin

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• bmxholden1 August 10

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  As I've said from Day 1, Patterson, Hopkins, Austin!
  
  The "raw" Patterson is more than equal to the "polished" Hopkins already, imagine his upside as a 5 tool player that he is! Heck, he might be a 6 tool player!
  
  
• pemo August 10

  Posts: 870

  bmxholden1 said:

  As I've said from Day 1, Patterson, Hopkins, Austin!
  
  The "raw" Patterson is more than equal to the "polished" Hopkins already, imagine his upside as a 5 tool player that he is! Heck, he might be a 6 tool player!
  
  

  
  

  Why is raw in quotation marks?  He is raw, Hopkins is polished, and assuming Patterson is more than equal as an all around receiver is incredibly short sighted at this juncture.  Being a receiver is more than just after catch ability.  

  Predictions
  
  [ ] Percy Harvin will be a top 5 PPR wide receiver, outscoring Cobb
  [ ] Danny Amendola will be a top 15 PPR wide receiver
  [ ] Russel Wilson will be a top 4 QB
  [ ] Denario Alexander will be a top 15 PPR WR
• emurrell17 August 10

  Posts: 1,626

  Stay with me here. But in my eyes, Patterson = Julio type player
  Hopkins= dez type player
  Austin= Harvin type player
  
  I think it's impossible to determine what CP is capable of at this point. If he ever learns to attack the ball like Hopkins does, it's game over. Hopkins I think will be amazing, but Patterson's ceiling is higher with his physical tools. That's just how I see them.
  
  But I'll take the more sure thing (again IMO) in Hopkins
  So
  Hopkins
  CP (but it's soooooo close)
  
  
  Austin

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• bddavidson August 10

  Posts: 10,417

  As I have said all along patterson will be a stud..but just make take an extra year to get there...but I do love his speed hands and after the catch moves. He does need to polish his route running and going after the ball and als coming back to the ball.
  Hopkins = patterson
  
  
  Austin

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• stewss7 August 10

  Posts: 433

  pemo said:

  bmxholden1 said:

  As I've said from Day 1, Patterson, Hopkins, Austin!
  
  The "raw" Patterson is more than equal to the "polished" Hopkins already, imagine his upside as a 5 tool player that he is! Heck, he might be a 6 tool player!
  
  

  
  

  Why is raw in quotation marks?  He is raw, Hopkins is polished, and assuming Patterson is more than equal as an all around receiver is incredibly short sighted at this juncture.  Being a receiver is more than just after catch ability.  

  
  
  Well said. I'm not high on Patterson (partly due to QB) but the one thing I'll say in Patterson's favor is that it seems to me that it is considerably easier to become more polished than it is to become more explosive/athletic.
  
  

  @stewss7
• stewss7 August 10

  Posts: 433

  bddavidson said:

  .but I do love his speed hands and after the catch moves.

  
  
  bdd, I've been on these forums for a few months & I regularly agree with your takes so the 'Patterson hands' comment took me aback. In the games I've seen, Patterson regularly body-catches the ball.

  @stewss7
• bddavidson August 10

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  stewss7 said:

  bddavidson said:

  .but I do love his speed hands and after the catch moves.

  
  
  bdd, I've been on these forums for a few months & I regularly agree with your takes so the 'Patterson hands' comment took me aback. In the games I've seen, Patterson regularly body-catches the ball.

  
  
  but does he drop balls?

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• stewss7 August 10

  Posts: 433

  Haven't seen many drops but I also haven't seen him against consistent elite competition.

  @stewss7
• JRMRRT August 10

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  emurrell17 said:

  Stay with me here. But in my eyes, Patterson = Julio type player
  Hopkins= dez type player
  Austin= Harvin type player  

  
  
  I think Dez and Julio are pretty similar players. Both big, powerful WRs. I would say Patterson is similar to their style while Hopkins is more similar to a AJ Green style. Not saying they are as good though.

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• emurrell17 August 10

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  JRMRRT said:

  emurrell17 said:

  Stay with me here. But in my eyes, Patterson = Julio type player
  Hopkins= dez type player
  Austin= Harvin type player  

  
  
  I think Dez and Julio are pretty similar players. Both big, powerful WRs. I would say Patterson is similar to their style while Hopkins is more similar to a AJ Green style. Not saying they are as good though.

  
  
  Ya we are on the same page here. I'm not saying they are AS good...yet anyway..but Julio is a little bit more of a player that they can just throw screens to and watch him go. And the dreads :D haha the difference is minute but I meant that for me it's like choosing between dez and Julio. They are so close together for me that I have a little regret no matter who I chose

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