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Ball vs Tate
  • barriechrisbarriechris January 31
    Posts: 198
    Lets assume Moreno leaves and Tate signs with the Browns. Who do you like in ppr dynasty?
  • chaindog35chaindog35 January 31
    Posts: 575
    Ball - week long and twice on Sundays. Tate is older and I believe a product if the Houston scheme.
  • ArtySArtyS January 31
    Posts: 1,500
    I prefer Ball even if Moreno stays
  • branch0095 January 31
    Posts: 5,001
    ArtyS said:

    I prefer Ball even if Moreno stays



    This. I'm not a fan of Tate. I think he's largely a product of the system in HOU. Tate's also a guy who has never played an entire season in his career, despite getting COP carries for the majority of it. 
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  • DefiantVitreous
    Posts: 222
    ArtyS said:

    I prefer Ball even if Moreno stays



    This makes zero sense.  You like the 2nd HB on a team that has proven time and time again that they will give Moreno the ball at will?  How quickly do we forget that Tate is 1 year removed from being the best backup in the league and a starter on the majority of other teams.  Now, after an injury riddled season- of which he playef 60% of the games with broken ribs-  he's all of a sudden just a "product of the Houston system".  Give me a break.  If Tate goes to a different team and is the unquestioned starter, he has top 10 potential.  Maybe you just need to see Tate's name as #3 on Smitty's upside board for you guys to give it a 2nd thought.  I'd be shocked, yes shocked, that Smitty doesn't list Tate as a top 5 upside board player (if not the #1) contingent on him getting a starting gig.
  • DefiantVitreous
    Posts: 222
    Smitty, make me proud.
  • SweetLewSweetLew February 1
    Posts: 1,324
    Hes actually 2yrs removed from being productive... last year he was hurt all season.
  • bmxholden1bmxholden1 February 1
    Posts: 1,112
    Defiant, Tate is a beast of an athlete who given the opportunity and if healthy has the skill set to instantly go Lynch status, risky? Yes, Worth a shot? I say yes! Houston doesn't have a QB, easy to stop the run when you can't throw - Tate signs with a team that has balance, watch out!
  • ArtySArtyS February 1
    Posts: 1,500
    DefiantVitreous said:

    ArtyS said:

    I prefer Ball even if Moreno stays



    This makes zero sense.  You like the 2nd HB on a team that has proven time and time again that they will give Moreno the ball at will?  How quickly do we forget that Tate is 1 year removed from being the best backup in the league and a starter on the majority of other teams.  Now, after an injury riddled season- of which he playef 60% of the games with broken ribs-  he's all of a sudden just a "product of the Houston system".  Give me a break.  If Tate goes to a different team and is the unquestioned starter, he has top 10 potential.  Maybe you just need to see Tate's name as #3 on Smitty's upside board for you guys to give it a 2nd thought.  I'd be shocked, yes shocked, that Smitty doesn't list Tate as a top 5 upside board player (if not the #1) contingent on him getting a starting gig.


    How did Tate do this year after Foster was hurt? Ball seems to have earned plenty of trust in his rookie year and I expect him to earn more next year. I have seen plenty of Tate in a very good system and I am not impressed. Give me Ball
  • bddavidsonbddavidson February 1
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    i want ball
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  • DefiantVitreous
    Posts: 222
    ArtyS said:

    DefiantVitreous said:

    ArtyS said:

    I prefer Ball even if Moreno stays



    This makes zero sense.  You like the 2nd HB on a team that has proven time and time again that they will give Moreno the ball at will?  How quickly do we forget that Tate is 1 year removed from being the best backup in the league and a starter on the majority of other teams.  Now, after an injury riddled season- of which he playef 60% of the games with broken ribs-  he's all of a sudden just a "product of the Houston system".  Give me a break.  If Tate goes to a different team and is the unquestioned starter, he has top 10 potential.  Maybe you just need to see Tate's name as #3 on Smitty's upside board for you guys to give it a 2nd thought.  I'd be shocked, yes shocked, that Smitty doesn't list Tate as a top 5 upside board player (if not the #1) contingent on him getting a starting gig.


    How did Tate do this year after Foster was hurt? Ball seems to have earned plenty of trust in his rookie year and I expect him to earn more next year. I have seen plenty of Tate in a very good system and I am not impressed. Give me Ball



    Your comment wasn't Ball vs. Tate.  It was Ball (even if Moreno stays) vs. Tate.  If Moreno stays and Tate gets a starting gig, then I'll make a thousand dollar bet with you that Tate outproduces Ball.
  • hawk12hawk12 February 2
    Posts: 454
    I got both in an auction/keeper league, and will consider either/both as keepers for 2014 (got both for cheap).  SItuation means a lot for me, I think that IF your scenario happens, I'd be inclined to keep both, but WAY more excited for Ball....
  • stewss7stewss7 February 2
    Posts: 1,034
    DefiantVitreous said:

    ArtyS said:

    DefiantVitreous said:

    ArtyS said:

    I prefer Ball even if Moreno stays



    This makes zero sense.  You like the 2nd HB on a team that has proven time and time again that they will give Moreno the ball at will?  How quickly do we forget that Tate is 1 year removed from being the best backup in the league and a starter on the majority of other teams.  Now, after an injury riddled season- of which he playef 60% of the games with broken ribs-  he's all of a sudden just a "product of the Houston system".  Give me a break.  If Tate goes to a different team and is the unquestioned starter, he has top 10 potential.  Maybe you just need to see Tate's name as #3 on Smitty's upside board for you guys to give it a 2nd thought.  I'd be shocked, yes shocked, that Smitty doesn't list Tate as a top 5 upside board player (if not the #1) contingent on him getting a starting gig.


    How did Tate do this year after Foster was hurt? Ball seems to have earned plenty of trust in his rookie year and I expect him to earn more next year. I have seen plenty of Tate in a very good system and I am not impressed. Give me Ball



    Your comment wasn't Ball vs. Tate.  It was Ball (even if Moreno stays) vs. Tate.  If Moreno stays and Tate gets a starting gig, then I'll make a thousand dollar bet with you that Tate outproduces Ball.


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  • dunlap13dunlap13 February 2
    Posts: 2,034
    I like ball more
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