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Week 12 Studs and Duds Thread
  • bddavidsonbddavidson November 24
    Posts: 10,789
    garyzab said:

    Way to go Ridley!!!!!!!!!!!!!




    exactly why I own Ridley in zero league....get ready vereen...  \m/
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  • garyzabgaryzab November 24
    Posts: 6,865
    branch0095 said:

    Now it's really Vereen time! Ridley with the fumble. Bellichik won't be putting up with that in a game like this. Vereen is about to go OFF!



    That's exactly what I said a week ago.  Too big of a game to lose with Ridley coughing up the ball.  It is go time for Vereen!
    DC6

    Qb RG3, Locker
    Wr DT, Shorts, Givens, Austin, Harper, Stills, Vince Brown, TJ Graham
    Rb Forte, Reggie Bush, Vereen, Turbin, Pead, LMJ
    Te Davis, Cameron, Myers
    K Blair Walsh
    Def Packers, Patriots
  • bddavidsonbddavidson November 24
    Posts: 10,789
    garyzab said:

    bddavidson said:

    Hey Gary what should we do ? Romo won a game...



    I had a beer in his honor



    LOl that is the spirit buddy!!!! \m/
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  • garyzabgaryzab November 24
    Posts: 6,865
    bddavidson said:

    garyzab said:

    Way to go Ridley!!!!!!!!!!!!!




    exactly why I own Ridley in zero league....get ready vereen...  \m/


    Ridley may as well get changed because there is zero chance he gets back in the game now
    DC6

    Qb RG3, Locker
    Wr DT, Shorts, Givens, Austin, Harper, Stills, Vince Brown, TJ Graham
    Rb Forte, Reggie Bush, Vereen, Turbin, Pead, LMJ
    Te Davis, Cameron, Myers
    K Blair Walsh
    Def Packers, Patriots
  • branch0095 November 24
    Posts: 3,759
    I think Vereen's going to have 10-12 catches tonight.
    2013 predictions

    -Cobb outscores Harvin in PPR
    -Chris Ivory will be a top 15RB
    -Kenny Britt finishes outside the top 20WRs
  • Swampies November 24
    Posts: 2,073
    branch0095 said:

    Now it's really Vereen time! Ridley with the fumble. Bellichik won't be putting up with that in a game like this. Vereen is about to go OFF!




    \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/
    My league is a non PPR 12 person league having a roster of 19 players each. Active roster includes 1Qb 2Rb's 3Wr's 1Te 1K 1Def. Two weeks before draft we cut the roster down to 9 keepers. My team as of now:
    QB Russell Wilson, EJ Manuel, Josh Mckown
    RB Lamar Miller, Shane Vereen, Zac Stacy,
    WR AJ Green, Julio Jones, Josh Gordon, Andre Johnson, Rueben Randle, Robert Woods, Kenny Stills
    TE J Reed, M. Bennett
    DEF Kansas City, Giants, Eagles
    K Steven Hauschka

    (I'm not a expert but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!)
  • Payton34Payton34 November 24
    Posts: 636
    branch0095 said:

    Payton34 said:

    branch0095 said:

    ump said:

    branch0095 said:

    For those that have anointed Stacy a top 15ish dynasty RB, I'd be a little worried about Benny Cunningham.





    I really like Cunningham for next year. It will probably end up as another timeshare.



    I had people attacking me in a Stacy thread because I didn't have him ranked inside my top 20 yet. Cunningham could surpass Stacy, or he could go back to riding the pine when Stacy is healthy. We just don't know. This is why I don't bump RBs like Stacy up my dynasty rankings so quickly. I need to see more than a few games out of them before they become high RB2s in dynasty for me.


    So, to get this straight... You don't bump players like Stacy up because they might get hurt?

    Cunningham was zero, zip, zilch, nada before Stacy got hurt... The situation wasn't "fluid". The starter (that would be Stacy) got hurt... Cunningham proved that he too could run all over a terrible Bears' rushing D as well.... Does the injury now mean that the situation is fluid NOW?

    Yeah, maybe... But sans injury you were still off not giving Stacy a bump in your dynasty rankings. JMO



    To say the situation is not fluid is extremely short sighted IMO. This is dynasty, not redraft. Stacy has looked good, but there's no guarantee of his role/usage for next year forward. It could very well turn into some sort of committee. Is there a guarantee of any RBs usage next year? No, but Stacy also has no history behind him to support his usage. I didn't keep Stacy lower in my rankings because he "might get hurt" . I kept him lower because I'm not totally convinced of his long term value yet. I view him in the low RB2 range at this point. If you don't agree with my rankings then great, you don't have to use them. I could say the same thing about your rankings if you're trying to say you have Stacy as a RB1 in dynasty at this point.

    Also, FWIW I DID give Stacy a bump in my rankings. He was in the 40-45 range before he started getting touches. I bumped him close to 20 spots when he became the starter.



    But you're attempting to say you're somehow redeemed because the guy got hurt.... Not buying it.

    Stacy was clearly "The Guy". Let me ask you this? Where do you have Eddie Lacy right now in your rankings? Is that situation "fluid" to you? Just curious because it's almost an exactly parallel point of reference. (Except Lacy didn't get hurt today)
    NON-PPR, 6pt TD Pass, Return Yards Count, Start 1-3 RBs
    QB - Brees, Glennon, Manuel
    RB - D Martin, Charles, L Miller, L Bell, Z Stacy
    WR - Marshall, D Bowe, J Nelson, Givens, Randle, Hopkins,
    TE - J Cook, J Thomas, K Rudolph
    K - Bailey, Akers
    D - Seattle, NY Jets
  • garyzabgaryzab November 24
    Posts: 6,865
    bddavidson said:

    garyzab said:

    bddavidson said:

    Hey Gary what should we do ? Romo won a game...



    I had a beer in his honor



    LOl that is the spirit buddy!!!! \m/


    If there is anything we should have in common  it should be mutual hate for Mara and the Giants.  It was Mara who went after Jones and Snyder with the salary cap fines. 
    DC6

    Qb RG3, Locker
    Wr DT, Shorts, Givens, Austin, Harper, Stills, Vince Brown, TJ Graham
    Rb Forte, Reggie Bush, Vereen, Turbin, Pead, LMJ
    Te Davis, Cameron, Myers
    K Blair Walsh
    Def Packers, Patriots
  • branch0095 November 24
    Posts: 3,759
    Wow, this could get ugly fast for NE.
    2013 predictions

    -Cobb outscores Harvin in PPR
    -Chris Ivory will be a top 15RB
    -Kenny Britt finishes outside the top 20WRs
  • Payton34Payton34 November 24
    Posts: 636
    bddavidson said:

    garyzab said:

    Way to go Ridley!!!!!!!!!!!!!




    exactly why I own Ridley in zero league....get ready vereen...  \m/


    You mean, "Get ready Blount", right? This is Bellichick we're talking about after all... ;)
    NON-PPR, 6pt TD Pass, Return Yards Count, Start 1-3 RBs
    QB - Brees, Glennon, Manuel
    RB - D Martin, Charles, L Miller, L Bell, Z Stacy
    WR - Marshall, D Bowe, J Nelson, Givens, Randle, Hopkins,
    TE - J Cook, J Thomas, K Rudolph
    K - Bailey, Akers
    D - Seattle, NY Jets
  • bddavidsonbddavidson November 24
    Posts: 10,789
    dam another TO....is this a blowout already?
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  • garyzabgaryzab November 24
    Posts: 6,865
    branch0095 said:

    Wow, this could get ugly fast for NE.



    Great for us Vereen owners though, Brady will be forced to chuck the ball now in an attempt to stop the bleeding.
    DC6

    Qb RG3, Locker
    Wr DT, Shorts, Givens, Austin, Harper, Stills, Vince Brown, TJ Graham
    Rb Forte, Reggie Bush, Vereen, Turbin, Pead, LMJ
    Te Davis, Cameron, Myers
    K Blair Walsh
    Def Packers, Patriots
  • garyzabgaryzab November 24
    Posts: 6,865
    Payton34 said:

    bddavidson said:

    garyzab said:

    Way to go Ridley!!!!!!!!!!!!!




    exactly why I own Ridley in zero league....get ready vereen...  \m/


    You mean, "Get ready Blount", right? This is Bellichick we're talking about after all... ;)


    I hate you lol
    DC6

    Qb RG3, Locker
    Wr DT, Shorts, Givens, Austin, Harper, Stills, Vince Brown, TJ Graham
    Rb Forte, Reggie Bush, Vereen, Turbin, Pead, LMJ
    Te Davis, Cameron, Myers
    K Blair Walsh
    Def Packers, Patriots
  • branch0095 November 24
    Posts: 3,759
    Payton34 said:

    branch0095 said:

    Payton34 said:

    branch0095 said:

    ump said:

    branch0095 said:

    For those that have anointed Stacy a top 15ish dynasty RB, I'd be a little worried about Benny Cunningham.





    I really like Cunningham for next year. It will probably end up as another timeshare.



    I had people attacking me in a Stacy thread because I didn't have him ranked inside my top 20 yet. Cunningham could surpass Stacy, or he could go back to riding the pine when Stacy is healthy. We just don't know. This is why I don't bump RBs like Stacy up my dynasty rankings so quickly. I need to see more than a few games out of them before they become high RB2s in dynasty for me.


    So, to get this straight... You don't bump players like Stacy up because they might get hurt?

    Cunningham was zero, zip, zilch, nada before Stacy got hurt... The situation wasn't "fluid". The starter (that would be Stacy) got hurt... Cunningham proved that he too could run all over a terrible Bears' rushing D as well.... Does the injury now mean that the situation is fluid NOW?

    Yeah, maybe... But sans injury you were still off not giving Stacy a bump in your dynasty rankings. JMO



    To say the situation is not fluid is extremely short sighted IMO. This is dynasty, not redraft. Stacy has looked good, but there's no guarantee of his role/usage for next year forward. It could very well turn into some sort of committee. Is there a guarantee of any RBs usage next year? No, but Stacy also has no history behind him to support his usage. I didn't keep Stacy lower in my rankings because he "might get hurt" . I kept him lower because I'm not totally convinced of his long term value yet. I view him in the low RB2 range at this point. If you don't agree with my rankings then great, you don't have to use them. I could say the same thing about your rankings if you're trying to say you have Stacy as a RB1 in dynasty at this point.

    Also, FWIW I DID give Stacy a bump in my rankings. He was in the 40-45 range before he started getting touches. I bumped him close to 20 spots when he became the starter.



    But you're attempting to say you're somehow redeemed because the guy got hurt.... Not buying it.

    Stacy was clearly "The Guy". Let me ask you this? Where do you have Eddie Lacy right now in your rankings? Is that situation "fluid" to you? Just curious because it's almost an exactly parallel point of reference. (Except Lacy didn't get hurt today)



    I have Lacy 9-10 spots higher than Stacy. Maybe even a little higher than that. Like I've said before though, I've ALWAYS had Lacy higher than Stacy as I believe in Lacy's talent and situation more so than I do with Stacy. The issues with Stacy aren't him getting hurt, and I really don't care what you do and don't "buy". My issues and concerns with Stacy are much more about Cunningham's ability. I think Cunningham is much more of a threat to Stacy's playing time than any RB in GB is to Lacy.
    2013 predictions

    -Cobb outscores Harvin in PPR
    -Chris Ivory will be a top 15RB
    -Kenny Britt finishes outside the top 20WRs
  • Swampies November 24
    Posts: 2,073
    Hat trick!
    My league is a non PPR 12 person league having a roster of 19 players each. Active roster includes 1Qb 2Rb's 3Wr's 1Te 1K 1Def. Two weeks before draft we cut the roster down to 9 keepers. My team as of now:
    QB Russell Wilson, EJ Manuel, Josh Mckown
    RB Lamar Miller, Shane Vereen, Zac Stacy,
    WR AJ Green, Julio Jones, Josh Gordon, Andre Johnson, Rueben Randle, Robert Woods, Kenny Stills
    TE J Reed, M. Bennett
    DEF Kansas City, Giants, Eagles
    K Steven Hauschka

    (I'm not a expert but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!)
  • SmittySmitty November 24
    Posts: 6,078
    When will some coaches learn what RBs to play? Get Vereen in there full time. Stupid coaching.
    - Smitty | Owner/Founder | DraftCalc.com
  • WeekEnd_Warriors November 24
    Posts: 454
    get a room
  • bddavidsonbddavidson November 24
    Posts: 10,789
    well thought we have a good ballgame ..now it is a full blown blowout! guess I have to go watch it is a wonderful life... :((
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  • garyzabgaryzab November 24
    Posts: 6,865
    Time for Bellichick to stop getting cute and feed Vereen
    DC6

    Qb RG3, Locker
    Wr DT, Shorts, Givens, Austin, Harper, Stills, Vince Brown, TJ Graham
    Rb Forte, Reggie Bush, Vereen, Turbin, Pead, LMJ
    Te Davis, Cameron, Myers
    K Blair Walsh
    Def Packers, Patriots
  • branch0095 November 24
    Posts: 3,759
    bddavidson said:

    well thought we have a good ballgame ..now it is a full blown blowout! guess I have to go watch it is a wonderful life... :((



    You can watch the Vereen show if you'd like. With NE possibly going down 3 scores this early and the other RBs fumbling their way to the bench; Vereen could rack up 15 catches now.
    2013 predictions

    -Cobb outscores Harvin in PPR
    -Chris Ivory will be a top 15RB
    -Kenny Britt finishes outside the top 20WRs
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