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Giants TE Adrien Robinson has "failed to separate
from the pack" at spring practices, where he's rotated with Daniel Fells, Larry Donnell, Xavier Grimble, and Kellen Davis.

"It's fully open right now to all five guys," said TEs coach Kevin Gilbride Jr., who wants Robinson to "develop his
consistency," improve his "body control," and become a better "point-of-attack blocker." Per beat writer Jordan Raanan, Robinson did "flash a bit more," but "failed to blow away the competition." GM Jerry
Reese may have to explore upgrading tight end before or during camp.

I'm one of the first to discredit OTA/mini-camp reports per beat writers, but this is what I've been expecting. I can't understand the love for this guy. As the only Adrien Robinson non believer here I know of, l gotta say I think this guy is more likely to be cut than breakout. He's had a lot of hype after GM Jerry Reece called him the JPP of TE's because of his freak measureables. The reality is he has zero career catches in two years with the Giants and posted a 29-434-5 stat line for his entire 4 yr college career. He's caught 29 passes in the last 6 years. I know he's no risk as he's a waiver pickup in most leagues and if that's how you snag him be my guest. He won't be taking up space on my roster. Just my humble opinion fellas.

Hes never impressed me and I only own him in one league. I will likely drop him first chance I get.

I'm not sure I have ever even watched him. I don't have him on my radar to be honest.

I thought he would take that starting position pretty easily this year. So glad I passed on picking him up. I took the wait and see approach and grabbed Tim Wright off waivers instead.

Whos_Ur_Doggie said:

I thought he would take that starting position pretty easily this year. So glad I passed on picking him up. I took the wait and see approach and grabbed Tim Wright off waivers instead.

I'm not a big Wright fan with Myers signed, ASJ drafted, and Lovie saying he likes a more complete TE. He's worth a flyer to me if they move him to WR while listed as a TE.

donvaughn said:

Whos_Ur_Doggie said:

I thought he would take that starting position pretty easily this year. So glad I passed on picking him up. I took the wait and see approach and grabbed Tim Wright off waivers instead.

I'm not a big Wright fan with Myers signed, ASJ drafted, and Lovie saying he likes a more complete TE. He's worth a flyer to me if they move him to WR while listed as a TE.

I don't think Myers threatens Wright one bit but I guess anything can happen. I know that word out of Tampa has Wright playing a large role in that Tampa offense so just on that alone I would take Wright over Adrien. I've never been big on getting top talent at TE in FF as you could tell in our recent DraftMaster.

I hear you. TE's pop up on waivers even ever year. Deep position

Tim Wright over Adrien Robinson? Dude, that's a mistake. Don't take one blurb in padless OTA's seriously. Robinson has a serious opportunity with a very TE friendly coach.

DefiantVitreous said:

Tim Wright over Adrien Robinson? Dude, that's a mistake. Don't take one blurb in padless OTA's seriously. Robinson has a serious opportunity with a very TE friendly coach.

The blurb on Wright had nothing to do with OTA's. It was a blurb on how much they expect Wright to be a part of the Tampa offense. Thanks for your input though.

Id take Wright over Robinson also.

This is like saying who's hotter...Rosie O'Donnel or Whoopie Goldberg... I'll pass on both thx though.

SweetLew said:

This is like saying who's hotter...Rosie O'Donnel or Whoopie Goldberg... I'll pass on both thx though.

Nice! Lol

SweetLew said:

This is like saying who's hotter...Rosie O'Donnel or Whoopie Goldberg... I'll pass on both thx though.

That's tuff call. Flip a coin.

haimez40 said:

SweetLew said:

This is like saying who's hotter...Rosie O'Donnel or Whoopie Goldberg... I'll pass on both thx though.

That's tuff call. Flip a coin.

isn't that something you do at 2:30am when you leave the bar, since that's when they look their best? ;)

SweetLew said:

This is like saying who's hotter...Rosie O'Donnel or Whoopie Goldberg... I'll pass on both thx though.

I'll pass as well. I'd rather make whoopie with my rosie.

Whos_Ur_Doggie said:

DefiantVitreous said:

Tim Wright over Adrien Robinson? Dude, that's a mistake. Don't take one blurb in padless OTA's seriously. Robinson has a serious opportunity with a very TE friendly coach.

The blurb on Wright had nothing to do with OTA's. It was a blurb on how much they expect Wright to be a part of the Tampa offense. Thanks for your input though.

That's part if the problem, stop reacting to a nonsense OTA blurb. Tim Wright is waiver wire fodder. Lovie Smith's teams never have a fantasy friendly TE. It's a run-first, ball control offense. They just drafted ASJ, whom they wouldn't have drafted if Wright was actually going to become large part of the offense. You're a smart guy, form your own opinion. Ignore the blurbs.

I just find it so hilarious that people are making fun of Robinson, saying they wouldn't want him and are a "staying away" when the guy is going to be given his first chance, has terrific combine measurables and plays for an extremely TE friendly offense on a team with the best TE coach in the league. Especially, because you can obtain Robinson for virtually peanuts.

I find it so fascinating that teams avoid guys like Robinson using very little logic and replace it with the opinionated ' what have you done for me lately' theory. But yet, you'll draft a rookie that's probably going to bust or a guy like Tim Wright just because he had a few nice games last year in a completely different system with a completely different roster. Tim Wright will be lucky to catch 35 passes.

The basis of my opinion about Robinson hasn't changed in months. I simply used a minicamp blurb as supporting evidence and as a conversation starter. My opinion is based on facts. Not little logic or what have you done for me lately. I gave actual production numbers in the OP. I actually find the opposite to be true. Using little logic is basing his breakout potential on combine measureables, which I assume you mean pro-day, and a blurb from the GM describing him two years ago. As far as chances go, he's had them. 6 years worth. I don't think he's not performing because he's never been given an opportunity. I'm not a fan of Wright either, and I wouldn't blame anyone for rostering either if picked up on the cheap. And you're right, Robinson could surprise me and breakout. I'm just trying to keep the hype in check with facts.

Speaking of waiver wire Lyeria probably on most wires and he will probably score more than both combined.
Running based offenses use 2TE sets also, so essentially in today NFL Wright is equivalent of a slot guy.
Edit: barring a Lyeria suspension of course.LOL

donvaughn said:

The basis of my opinion about Robinson hasn't changed in months. I simply used a minicamp blurb as supporting evidence and as a conversation starter. My opinion is based on facts. Not little logic or what have you done for me lately. I gave actual production numbers in the OP. I actually find the opposite to be true. Using little logic is basing his breakout potential on combine measureables, which I assume you mean pro-day, and a blurb from the GM describing him two years ago. As far as chances go, he's had them. 6 years worth. I don't think he's not performing because he's never been given an opportunity. I'm not a fan of Wright either, and I wouldn't blame anyone for rostering either if picked up on the cheap. And you're right, Robinson could surprise me and breakout. I'm just trying to keep the hype in check with facts.

Robinson was a rookie in 2012. Going back to college is pretty pointless. In any event, it doesn't make any sense to completely write-off a starting TE, on a TE friendly team, with the best TE coach in the league, whom will cost you pennies. I don't care if you think he's going to bust or not. The guy hasn't been given a chance and has a very high ceiling based on opportunity and measureables- which is the way we fall in love with rookies. No offense, none of us are scouts so having an opinion that he's going to suck and just blindly stay away from a guy with his potential is myopic and out of touch. And to do it for a guy like Tim Wright who has virtually no ceiling and no future as an impact fantasy TE is even more myopic.

I just don't see how anyone can say he's not worth a pickup based on how little it will cost you and how high his ceiling is if he hits.

DefiantVitreous said:

donvaughn said:

The basis of my opinion about Robinson hasn't changed in months. I simply used a minicamp blurb as supporting evidence and as a conversation starter. My opinion is based on facts. Not little logic or what have you done for me lately. I gave actual production numbers in the OP. I actually find the opposite to be true. Using little logic is basing his breakout potential on combine measureables, which I assume you mean pro-day, and a blurb from the GM describing him two years ago. As far as chances go, he's had them. 6 years worth. I don't think he's not performing because he's never been given an opportunity. I'm not a fan of Wright either, and I wouldn't blame anyone for rostering either if picked up on the cheap. And you're right, Robinson could surprise me and breakout. I'm just trying to keep the hype in check with facts.

Robinson was a rookie in 2012. Going back to college is pretty pointless. In any event, it doesn't make any sense to completely write-off a starting TE, on a TE friendly team, with the best TE coach in the league, whom will cost you pennies. I don't care if you think he's going to bust or not. The guy hasn't been given a chance and has a very high ceiling based on opportunity and measureables- which is the way we fall in love with rookies. No offense, none of us are scouts so having an opinion that he's going to suck and just blindly stay away from a guy with his potential is myopic and out of touch. And to do it for a guy like Tim Wright who has virtually no ceiling and no future as an impact fantasy TE is even more myopic.

I just don't see how anyone can say he's not worth a pickup based on how little it will cost you and how high his ceiling is if he hits.

Why is it wrong if there opinion is that he isnt very good not ok and your opinion is he will be good is ok..both are opinions one isnt better than the other..

I've drafted Robinson in the 4th or 5th round of rookie drafts, or plucked him off the waiver wire. He's got a great opportunity to be a starter, so the cost is about as dirt cheap as it can get. He's a flyer just like any other flyer out there.

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