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Never watched Duck Dynasty, I heard at minimum it's "fascinating" lol

Also you'll never hear those board members say, "we need to reduce our costs, so the board should take a pay cut so we won't have to layoff anyone."

guess we cant really cant say what we want in this country....we all have different beliefs....the bible says that judgment is coming...he believes that...he was expressing that

Yes... You can say what you want... You also have to deal with the consequences of your actions (or statements in this case)... You can't be employed by a major network and say (without expecting consequences):

"Asked what, in his mind, is sinful, Robertson replied: "Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men."

If he had said "Start with christian behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men" you don't think there would have been serious repercussions???

As a public figure you can't say things like that without public backlash & he should know better...

I believe John Stewart said it best: "I don't know why people think that somehow the First Amendment applies to network television. It doesn't. It's like the way free speech doesn't apply at your work. You can't just walk into your boss' office and say 'You're a F#$% face and I'm gunna go back to work now'... No... You're not."

Just my $0.02...

tmoney said:

Also you'll never hear those board members say, "we need to reduce our costs, so the board should take a pay cut so we won't have to layoff anyone."

tmoney said:

You are certainly correct there too lol, another component of the problem:)

MikeOcherts said:

guess we cant really cant say what we want in this country....we all have different beliefs....the bible says that judgment is coming...he believes that...he was expressing that

Yes... You can say what you want... You also have to deal with the consequences of your actions (or statements in this case)... You can't be employed by a major network and say (without expecting consequences):

"Asked what, in his mind, is sinful, Robertson replied: "Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men."

If he had said "Start with christian behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men" you don't think there would have been serious repercussions???

As a public figure you can't say things like that without public backlash & he should know better...

I believe John Stewart said it best: "I don't know why people think that somehow the First Amendment applies to network television. It doesn't. It's like the way free speech doesn't apply at your work. You can't just walk into your boss' office and say 'You're a F#$% face and I'm gunna go back to work now'... No... You're not."

Just my $0.02...

Kudos to Phil for standing up for his beliefs, not enough of that in this country anymore...

How I long for the 80's, when you could make movies like Trading Places and Airplane! and it was all good fun and humor lol.

BD: "Kudos to Phil for standing up for his beliefs, not enough of that in this country amymore...why should someone comproimse there beliefs for another person or group."

Odd... I see the problem as not enough people being willing to compromise for the good of society as a whole...

Strong, uncompromising people like Don Black & Fred Phelps (two men who are unashamed of & unwilling to compromise their ideals for anyone) would most likely agree with your last statement...

Sorry about the soapbox but this intolerant "reality TV star" touched a nerve. BD Feel free to respond (either here or via PM). I won't mention this on the forums again...

Just my $0.02...

Mike it also strikes a nerve with me as well! he has his beliefs. agree or not there is nothing wrong with his views the problems lies in if agree with those views or not..since ur calling me a white supremist we shall agree to disagree as i can not support your non christian views and why i dont shop at starbucks

No, no, no... In no way am I saying YOU agree with what those two idiots stand for, however I'm pretty sure both of THEM would agree with your "no compromise" stance...

Wutthecrapman said:

garyzab said:

Smitty said:

garyzab said:

Final exams over, breathe easy DC Nation :))

Pass?

I scored As in both classes Godfather, thank you for caring. Heroin is a huge epidemic where I live so I am hoping to make a dent as a counselor. Someone has to, Jesus.

Good job on making your studies a priority. Fantasy should always take a distance backseat to family and education. Best of luck to ya Gary, you're hard work should pay off.

Thank you Crap and I wish you only the best in return. Merry Christmas (do they have that in Canadia?) Joke. I hope you got your girlfriend something a little nicer than a fishing pole.

garyzab said:

Wutthecrapman said:

garyzab said:

Smitty said:

garyzab said:

Final exams over, breathe easy DC Nation :))

Pass?

I scored As in both classes Godfather, thank you for caring. Heroin is a huge epidemic where I live so I am hoping to make a dent as a counselor. Someone has to, Jesus.

Good job on making your studies a priority. Fantasy should always take a distance backseat to family and education. Best of luck to ya Gary, you're hard work should pay off.

Thank you Crap and I wish you only the best in return. Merry Christmas (do they have that in Canadia?) Joke. I hope you got your girlfriend something a little nicer than a fishing pole.

Guess that depends on the size of the fishing pole! lol

im a Christian...been going to church on sundays for a long time...my kids have been going to church for a long time...I think its good for kids to go to church on sundays....I follow the gospel...I love phil....I love duck dynasty.....where he messed up is when he "passed judgement" on the gay community....you can be a Christian and stand up for your beliefs but when we start passing judgment it starts to get dicey...phil got baited into this and he bit...hard

FarFromHome said:

im a Christian...been going to church on sundays for a long time...my kids have been going to church for a long time...I think its good for kids to go to church on sundays....I follow the gospel...I love phil....I love duck dynasty.....where he messed up is when he "passed judgement" on the gay community....you can be a Christian and stand up for your beliefs but when we start passing judgment it starts to get dicey...phil got baited into this and he bit...hard

Aren't passing judgement and guilt the founding principles of the Catholic religion though?

bddavidson said:

garyzab said:

Wutthecrapman said:

garyzab said:

Smitty said:

garyzab said:

Final exams over, breathe easy DC Nation :))

Pass?

I scored As in both classes Godfather, thank you for caring. Heroin is a huge epidemic where I live so I am hoping to make a dent as a counselor. Someone has to, Jesus.

Good job on making your studies a priority. Fantasy should always take a distance backseat to family and education. Best of luck to ya Gary, you're hard work should pay off.

Thank you Crap and I wish you only the best in return. Merry Christmas (do they have that in Canadia?) Joke. I hope you got your girlfriend something a little nicer than a fishing pole.

Guess that depends on the size of the fishing pole! lol

Not to mention the size of the hole

^ hehe

FarFromHome said:

im a Christian...been going to church on sundays for a long time...my kids have been going to church for a long time...I think its good for kids to go to church on sundays....I follow the gospel...I love phil....I love duck dynasty.....where he messed up is when he "passed judgement" on the gay community....you can be a Christian and stand up for your beliefs but when we start passing judgment it starts to get dicey...phil got baited into this and he bit...hard

Good point and agreed
.. and i am surpized anyone would expect a different answer from him

Christians can have fundamental disagreements on morality issues with others...perfectly natural....but the response to such disagreements should never be "im right....your wrong....and THIS is whats gonna happen to you.."....just never goes well....phil can voice his disagreement...when he said they will basically get whats coming in the end is where he messed up....im really glad the family has come out and basically said they cannot imagine the show continuing without him....A and E is in a tough spot....gonne be interesting how this plays out....

FarFromHome said:

Christians can have fundamental disagreements on morality issues with others...perfectly natural....but the response to such disagreements should never be "im right....your wrong....and THIS is whats gonna happen to you.."....just never goes well....phil can voice his disagreement...when he said they will basically get whats coming in the end is where he messed up....im really glad the family has come out and basically said they cannot imagine the show continuing without him....A and E is in a tough spot....gonne be interesting how this plays out....

I just saw/read that will defintely be interesting A&E should have seen this coming

But it's not about A&E, it's about the advertisers. If companies feel that it is not go to be beneficial to associate themselves with such an opinion, then they will pull their advertising dollars. If the ad dollars go away, A&E will pull the plug on the show regardless.

It's not like these guys need the show, their business was doing very well prior to being on TV. They could easily walk away.

tmoney said:

But it's not about A&E, it's about the advertisers. If companies feel that it is not go to be beneficial to associate themselves with such an opinion, then they will pull their advertising dollars. If the ad dollars go away, A&E will pull the plug on the show regardless.

It's not like these guys need the show, their business was doing very well prior to being on TV. They could easily walk away.

They will walk away. He expressed his religious views. Done.

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