Hype is not deterring me at all. I think Sanders is just an average WR. Okay okay okay okay... He's slightly better than Bubba Caldwell. If you're in the league for 4 years and had a quality QB in Big Ben then yea you should have had that break out years ago.

Why do we create threads about Keenan Allen and not E. Sanders? Talent. Allen took his talent and broke out even being 4th on the depth chart. It should not take a player with as much talent as you may indicate to surface that long. If Peyton can make garbage look attractive that's a plus on Peyton and in the end Sanders is still that garbage after Peyton see's other guys around him are better.

Allen has reached his ceiling is mind boggling...he takes a few games to get into starting lineup and he reaches his ceiling as a rookie LMAO.. looks to be a TD machine..to put maclin/sanders/ cobb and others who have been in the league for several years and not reached a 1000 yards is questionable...especially for a guy who bases most everything on stats...you guys all this credit and value to Floyd who took two season to reach what allen did in his first but dont give Allen his credit .oh well.

robbyrobdu said:

bddavidson said:

Allen has reached his ceiling is mind boggling...he takes a few games to get into starting lineup and he reaches his ceiling as a rookie LMAO.. looks to be a TD machine..to put maclin/sanders/ cobb and others who have been in the league for several years and not reached a 1000 yards is questionable...especially for a guy who bases most everything on stats...

Shouldn't boggle the mind too much.

Many guys come into the NFL more polished than others.

I think the truly amazing thing is how he put his knee issues behind him and exploded with noodle-armed Rivers at the helm.

well if its is more bout noodle arm rivers than Allen we should say so but does Plamer have a rocket?

LukeB5301 said:

bddavidson said:

Allen has reached his ceiling is mind boggling...he takes a few games to get into starting lineup and he reaches his ceiling as a rookie LMAO..

So every guy who has a good rookie season must do better then that in later seasons? it's not possible a guy can have his best season his rookie year? It's not possible the entire team just had a fluke good year?

No? ok tell that to Mike Williams

and every rookie who has a good year is Mike Williams? i dont think keenan has off the field issues does he or i maybe wrong about that not sure but havent heard about any

I can't understand why some would think he reached his ceiling... The stud caught 68% percent of his targets as a rookie! That's insane. Only Edleman(70%) had a better percentage rate than Allen amongst WR's seeing more than 100 targets.

Awesome route runner
Sticky hands
Toughness
Gutsy QB
Offensive minded HC in McCoy

Could reach 95/1400/12 as soon as 2014.

bddavidson said:

you know Allen was the #1 rated Wr going into the 2012 season i believe and had an injury ran a poor 40 time was stolen in the draft by the chargers ..its not like he came out of now where

Very true point. I don't think the question, for most of us that think he's already reached or is near his peak, is about his talent or ability to be a reliable option. I personally just don't see him breaking into the top 6 WR group any time soon, if at all. I really like Allen overall, just not as my clear cut #1.

SMFFCN said:

bddavidson said:

you know Allen was the #1 rated Wr going into the 2012 season i believe and had an injury ran a poor 40 time was stolen in the draft by the chargers ..its not like he came out of now where

Very true point. I don't think the question, for most of us that think he's already reached or is near his peak, is about his talent or ability to be a reliable option. I personally just don't see him breaking into the top 6 WR group any time soon, if at all. I really like Allen overall, just not as my clear cut #1.

he not in my top 6 but 7 to 10 yes

robbyrobdu said:

bddavidson said:

Allen has reached his ceiling is mind boggling...he takes a few games to get into starting lineup and he reaches his ceiling as a rookie LMAO.. looks to be a TD machine..to put maclin/sanders/ cobb and others who have been in the league for several years and not reached a 1000 yards is questionable...especially for a guy who bases most everything on stats...

Shouldn't boggle the mind too much.

Many guys come into the NFL more polished than others.

I think the truly amazing thing is how he put his knee issues behind him and exploded with noodle-armed Rivers at the helm.

If you take the name of thread away I swear your talking about Denario Alexander, oh wait that was last year flash in the pan.  We are on the same page here.

Even after Allen Blew up starting week 4, he was still only the #11 WR in ppr leagues.  With the talent ahead of him and factoring in breakouts, i draft him as a low end WR1 right now, right around the 8-12 range.  

bmxholden1 said:

Back to that list, I would bump Allen above Brown, Patterson and Alshon. With Wheaton and Martavis in town I think Brown has a dip, Alshon a dip thanks to Cutlers health and Wilson entering the mix and Patterson just isn't as good of a WR. That puts him at 7 for me.

Bryant and Wheaton are threats to Brown but Sanders and Cotchery (10 td's) arent? Hmm not sure about that one... you could make the argument either way but for me Allen is somewhere between 8-14 for me.