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Keenan Allen for Christine Michael and the 1.01?
  • SwampiesSwampies February 8
    Posts: 2,981
    bddavidson said:

    both are very talented IMHO but Miller has philbin(the moron lol) as his coach and CM is behind lynch/turbin..trade the one you like least or flip a coin lol.. but as i posted in another thread i am putting more emphasis on the wrs now a days ..Rb are becoming less and less important in FF..




    BD I've been saying that for a long time now, hence the reason why I did so well in our league point wise! It's proves why you need more quality WR's as a whole even on the bench to punch in when your starters have byes or injuries! Another reason why I didn't get bitten on the Running debacle last year because my team doesn't reline on it like most teams do!
    My league is a non PPR 12 person league having a roster of 19 players each. Active roster includes 1Qb 2Rb's 3Wr's 1Te 1K 1Def. Two weeks before draft we cut the roster down to 9 keepers. My team as of now:
    QB Russell Wilson, EJ Manuel, Josh Mckown
    RB Lamar Miller, Shane Vereen, Zac Stacy, Cierre Wood
    WR AJ Green, Julio Jones, Josh Gordon, Andre Johnson, Rueben Randle, Kenny Stills
    TE Z Ertz, M. Bennett, Delanie Walker
    DEF Kansas City, Cleveland
    K Steven Hauschka

    (I'm not a expert but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!)
  • donvaughndonvaughn February 8
    Posts: 781
    I have the same philopshy Swampies. In my big cookie redraft last yr I went Calvin, Rodgers, Graham, Ridley, Jordy, Lacy, Vereen, Gordon. Waited on RB and drafted the best team I ever had.
    DC Superflex Dynasty. PPR. 4pt passing tds (1QB,2RB,3WR,1TE,1QB/RB/WR/TE)
    QB-P.Rivers, C.Palmer, B.Osweiler, R.Mallet
    RB-J.Charles, A.Ellington, K.Robinson, F.Jackson, S.Taylor, M.Leshoure
    WR-D.Thomas, B.Marshall, C.Patterson, D.Hopkins, M.Jones, M.Wilson
    TE-G.Olsen, L.Green
    Rookie Picks-1.10,2.05,3.01,3.05,4.02
  • Reisssox February 8
    Posts: 3,169
    JRMRRT said:

    I just noticed that Allen is ranked 7 ahead of Antonio Brown and Brandon Marshall...I like Allen but he doesnt deserve to be ahead of those guys yet IMO. 

    Yea this is crazy for sure..

  • SmittySmitty February 8
    Posts: 7,162
    donvaughn said:

    I have the same philopshy Swampies. In my big cookie redraft last yr I went Calvin, Rodgers, Graham, Ridley, Jordy, Lacy, Vereen, Gordon. Waited on RB and drafted the best team I ever had.



    Yep, just like last off season, your going to see me pushing the WR-WR and even WR-WR-WR this year.
    - Smitty | Owner/Founder
  • SwampiesSwampies February 8
    Posts: 2,981
    Smitty said:

    donvaughn said:

    I have the same philopshy Swampies. In my big cookie redraft last yr I went Calvin, Rodgers, Graham, Ridley, Jordy, Lacy, Vereen, Gordon. Waited on RB and drafted the best team I ever had.



    Yep, just like last off season, your going to see me pushing the WR-WR and even WR-WR-WR this year.




    Sounds to me your avatar should be Sugar bear pippin those WR's bitches!
    My league is a non PPR 12 person league having a roster of 19 players each. Active roster includes 1Qb 2Rb's 3Wr's 1Te 1K 1Def. Two weeks before draft we cut the roster down to 9 keepers. My team as of now:
    QB Russell Wilson, EJ Manuel, Josh Mckown
    RB Lamar Miller, Shane Vereen, Zac Stacy, Cierre Wood
    WR AJ Green, Julio Jones, Josh Gordon, Andre Johnson, Rueben Randle, Kenny Stills
    TE Z Ertz, M. Bennett, Delanie Walker
    DEF Kansas City, Cleveland
    K Steven Hauschka

    (I'm not a expert but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!)
  • SmittySmitty February 8
    Posts: 7,162
    Zombie bear?
    - Smitty | Owner/Founder
  • SwampiesSwampies February 8
    Posts: 2,981
    Smitty said:

    Zombie bear?




    lol
    My league is a non PPR 12 person league having a roster of 19 players each. Active roster includes 1Qb 2Rb's 3Wr's 1Te 1K 1Def. Two weeks before draft we cut the roster down to 9 keepers. My team as of now:
    QB Russell Wilson, EJ Manuel, Josh Mckown
    RB Lamar Miller, Shane Vereen, Zac Stacy, Cierre Wood
    WR AJ Green, Julio Jones, Josh Gordon, Andre Johnson, Rueben Randle, Kenny Stills
    TE Z Ertz, M. Bennett, Delanie Walker
    DEF Kansas City, Cleveland
    K Steven Hauschka

    (I'm not a expert but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!)
  • bddavidsonbddavidson February 8
    Posts: 12,293
    Watkins is going to be a stud! Allen is a stud already ..I think everyone forgets this guy broke just about every rookie wr record that includes rice/calvin/ajg etc.....he eraned to be ranked high but above marshall is tough but i like it..he has a good qb and plays in a fairly easy division too.
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  • bmxholden1bmxholden1 February 8
    Posts: 975
    Allen is elite for those non-believers, the trade looks very even, could break either way but Smitty takes less risk so a good trade only lost if the riskier side hits big time, if that happens so be it!
  • SmittySmitty February 8
    Posts: 7,162
    bmxholden1 said:

    Allen is elite for those non-believers, the trade looks very even, could break either way but Smitty takes less risk so a good trade only lost if the riskier side hits big time, if that happens so be it!



    It's arguable on both sides, but yep, we are on the same side. Allen would be my clear cut 1.01 if thrown into the pool of 2014 incoming rookies. No doubt.
    - Smitty | Owner/Founder
  • LukeB5301LukeB5301 February 8
    Posts: 7,601
    bmxholden1 said:

    Allen is elite for those non-believers, the trade looks very even, could break either way but Smitty takes less risk so a good trade only lost if the riskier side hits big time, if that happens so be it!



    You don't call someone elite after 1 year..
    My 2013 Predictions:
    [:(] C.J. Spiller Will Be The #1RB(Jan 9th)
    [XXX] Demaryius Thomas will be the #1 scoring WR!(Feb 13th)
    [XXX] Trent Richardson will NOT finish as a Top 10 RB!(June 4th)
    [:(] Rob Housler will be a Top 5 TE in 2013!(July 18th)
    [XXX] Josh Gordon will put up a 80/1200/10 stat line in just 14 Games!(Sept 5th)
  • bmxholden1bmxholden1 February 8
    Posts: 975
    I do! When a guy shows he is not coverable by any one Cornerback he has faced, catches everything that comes his way, and run's better routes than 98% of all NFL WR's, it's not too soon to say he is special and yes, elite.
  • SmittySmitty February 8
    Posts: 7,162
    Yeah, nothing wrong with calling someone elite after a year. It's all how you define elite too. Elite players can still bust due to coaching... Elite talent? Yes. A lock? Maybe that's when I say it's hard to call someone a lock. I think Allen is elite. It's all how we define things.
    - Smitty | Owner/Founder
  • bmxholden1bmxholden1 February 9
    Posts: 975
    great points - A lot of elite players stuck in bad situations for sure!
  • SmittySmitty February 9
    Posts: 7,162
    bmxholden1 said:

    great points - A lot of elite players stuck in bad situations for sure!



    Elite is just a term everyone treats differently is all... Watkins hasn't played a game, but he is elite... Or is it potentially elite? Just varies by person what one is truly saying by using the term.
    - Smitty | Owner/Founder
  • bddavidsonbddavidson February 9
    Posts: 12,293
    LukeB5301 said:

    bmxholden1 said:

    Allen is elite for those non-believers, the trade looks very even, could break either way but Smitty takes less risk so a good trade only lost if the riskier side hits big time, if that happens so be it!



    You don't call someone elite after 1 year..


    i am going call him elite for the simple fact he smashed most of the rookie wrs records and should have won rookie of the year too.we did with jj and ajg why not this kid that did out preform both in there rookie year? 
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  • LukeB5301LukeB5301 February 9
    Posts: 7,601
    You guys can call him that all you want I have no issue with it. I personally can't do it.. I need to see more then one year, more then 1000 yds 8 TDs...

    Terry Glenn, Michael Clayton, Joey Galloway, Eddie Kennison, hello Mike Williams.. none of those guys are elite..

    As for smashing most rookie records?? Huh??

    Receiving yards? Not in top 5
    TDs? Tied for 4th
    Recs? 5th

    I don't get it??

    Now I'm now saying he won't become elite, but m not calling it based on that
    My 2013 Predictions:
    [:(] C.J. Spiller Will Be The #1RB(Jan 9th)
    [XXX] Demaryius Thomas will be the #1 scoring WR!(Feb 13th)
    [XXX] Trent Richardson will NOT finish as a Top 10 RB!(June 4th)
    [:(] Rob Housler will be a Top 5 TE in 2013!(July 18th)
    [XXX] Josh Gordon will put up a 80/1200/10 stat line in just 14 Games!(Sept 5th)
  • LukeB5301LukeB5301 February 9
    Posts: 7,601
    bmxholden1 said:

    I do! When a guy shows he is not coverable by any one Cornerback he has faced,



    And who has he faced that's a great CB ? Let's not act like beating up on the Raiders and Redskins CBs makes him great.. They faced a pretty weak schedule defense wise..

    He only had 5 100 yd games and towards the end of the year could only manage was couple recs so don't act like he's uncoverable
    My 2013 Predictions:
    [:(] C.J. Spiller Will Be The #1RB(Jan 9th)
    [XXX] Demaryius Thomas will be the #1 scoring WR!(Feb 13th)
    [XXX] Trent Richardson will NOT finish as a Top 10 RB!(June 4th)
    [:(] Rob Housler will be a Top 5 TE in 2013!(July 18th)
    [XXX] Josh Gordon will put up a 80/1200/10 stat line in just 14 Games!(Sept 5th)
  • bddavidsonbddavidson February 9
    Posts: 12,293
    Luke i read somewhere where he was on pace to smash every rookie record dont remember where that was  but i guess that shoulder and hyper-extended knee injury the last 3 or 4 weeks hurt him..It not like this is a surprise. he was the #1 wr going into his senior year got injured and wasnt fully healed at the combine not like he came out from nowhere and he doesnt have the questionable character issues..i understand for sure not wanting to call him elite yet but just dont miss the boat on him if you can get him for good value..
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  • LukeB5301LukeB5301 February 9
    Posts: 7,601
    I will def be buying if its not too much no doubt...
    My 2013 Predictions:
    [:(] C.J. Spiller Will Be The #1RB(Jan 9th)
    [XXX] Demaryius Thomas will be the #1 scoring WR!(Feb 13th)
    [XXX] Trent Richardson will NOT finish as a Top 10 RB!(June 4th)
    [:(] Rob Housler will be a Top 5 TE in 2013!(July 18th)
    [XXX] Josh Gordon will put up a 80/1200/10 stat line in just 14 Games!(Sept 5th)
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