Ray Rice has a lot of miles on the tires between Rutgers and Baltimore being in the playoffs annually.  He could rebound for sure, but for how long?  I wouldn't of traded Decker before he went to NE.  What better way to screw over Denver for taking Welker than to take Decker?  I almost consider this a done deal unless somebody goes stupid and offers him like 13-15mil.

I love ray rice and his game ,but even if he returns to form alot to give, that's how deals get done two sides to every coin.

My opinion is decker alone or a lesser part

I traded r randle for rice 4 weeks ago and people felt I paid to much but I was thrilled ...

Agree I was thrilled to get him my point is decker is fair value IMO ... Vereen added us alot but u got ur guy so it's all good

Agree I was thrilled to get him my point is decker is fair value IMO ... Vereen added us alot but u got ur guy so it's all good

Not sure what league that is :) But hey, all league mates are treating players at different values. I myself, and I could be wrong, have Rice well ahead of Decker. Again, Decker was valued as a 2nd rounder in this league, no one was biting but me.

I offered the 1.4 and miller for ball and got laughed at :-/

Smitty agree I am buying rice but at a lower price that's all.

I traded rice/ pierce prior to last season I. A league and am going to get them back real soon for far less, the want j Thomas for rice I will squeeze them for pierce as well ...

Smitty agree I am buying rice but at a lower price that's all.

I traded rice/ pierce prior to last season I. A league and am going to get them back real soon for far less, the want j Thomas for rice I will squeeze them for pierce as well ...

Agreed, buy lower if you can, i would. Couldn't. But, even at this price, what some see as overpaying, I love the value still.

My new saying

That's what makes it fun ....

yep

Smitty said:

Rice is either loved or hated right now. He is either able to be had on the cheap, or at third round type value.

I myself pay Gronk or Decker/Vereen type value all day, as Rice will surely earn that value back in worst case (assuming he stays healthy). He could very well bounce back. I firmly believe that if it was Rice's fault he played so bad last year, Pierce would have thrived when in the lineup. He didn't.

It's arguable, no question, and respect any anti-Rice opinion. It is why we play!

I agree, I don't like the move for Rice. However, I'm also concerned with the fact that he's accused of knocking his fiancée unconscious. Add that off-field concern to his pathetic YPC in 2013 and I don't think Rice is a top 25 dynasty player.

I love the Britt/2d for Decker deal for you, but hate dealing Vereen and Decker for Rice. I like the idea of buying low on Rice, just not at that price. This highlights what I love about dynasty leagues though, it's all based on perceived future value, which is really just a matter of opinion. And I can testify to the fact that you've made some great moves in the past in your expert leagues. So, I hope you are right about Rice and this works out well for you. I do expect Decker to pull a Mike Wallace and get overpaid, yet underperform.

HailMary said:

Gronk, vereen and decker for ray rice? Not exactly the buy low price I'd be looking at a couple days after getting arrested. You feelin ok smitty?

Keep in mind it wasn't all those for Rice... It was Gronk for Rice then the other deal was Vereen and Decker. There might have been some picks in there... Just wanted to clear that up, as the way you said it was if I gave up all three in one deal.

Second, the situation got A LOT worse after the trade.. I still like the value a lot if he avoids a suspension and things aren't as bad as they seem. Rice, if still starting, can still be a top 5-10RB IMO. We shall see how it shakes out.