NEWS: Brandin Cooks to spend two weeks this Summer working out with Drew Brees?

DefiantVitreous said:

Smitty said:

DefiantVitreous said:

"The average stat line of a first-round rookie wideout over the last decade is 41 catches, 565 yards, and four touchdowns."

Just thought I'd drop that tidbit in here for sanity.

Yeah I love Brown, but it is hard to imagine him having a big statistical year as the third wheel. Who knows what's going on in AZ during his third season, though. I should have this news piece up shortly.

I was talking moreso about Cooks and the outrageous (IMO) predictions for him. The same can be applied to Brown however.

Could be right, but outliers jump out from time to time. Keenan Allen, Anquan Boldin, the only crazy or outrageous stance to me is one that eliminates all other possibilities. Meaning, to say Cooks CAN'T be one of those rookies in his situation, OR that he for sure will be, those are the only two stances that really are the crazy ones. Anything can happen, big man, and to say Cooks might be treated differently than most rookie receivers, especially incoming rookie Saints receivers, isn't all that hard to believe. I get if you don't like Cooks and you're predicting a letdown. That's a totally legit stance. So are the others, though. It's all opinion, no one has any idea how well he will perform right out of the gate, which will surely influence how many plays/targets he sees the following game, then the following game, and so on.

Smitty said:

DefiantVitreous said:

"The average stat line of a first-round rookie wideout over the last decade is 41 catches, 565 yards, and four touchdowns."

Just thought I'd drop that tidbit in here for sanity.

Yeah I love Brown, but it is hard to imagine him having a big statistical year as the third wheel. Who knows what's going on in AZ during his third season, though. I should have this news piece up shortly.

I'm looking forward to the new piece

DefiantVitreous said:

Smitty said:

DefiantVitreous said:

"The average stat line of a first-round rookie wideout over the last decade is 41 catches, 565 yards, and four touchdowns."

Just thought I'd drop that tidbit in here for sanity.

Yeah I love Brown, but it is hard to imagine him having a big statistical year as the third wheel. Who knows what's going on in AZ during his third season, though. I should have this news piece up shortly.

I was talking moreso about Cooks and the outrageous (IMO) predictions for him. The same can be applied to Brown however.

For the record I made no predictions about Cooks in this thread. Just that I thought comparing him as a rookie to Tavon Austin as a rookie was not a good comparison. One of the reasons Tavon was not good was his situation. Situation is not a problem for Cooks.

A rookie WR has only broke 10 TDS TWICE in the last 20 years.

A Rookie WR has only broke 80rec FOUR Times in the last 20 years.

A Rookie WR has only broke 1000 Yards SEVEN Times in the last 20 years.

Some people might want to temper their exceptions of Cooks in the 1st year. Again I'm not a fan of him but he does has a nice situation. Colston his rookie year in NO put up 70/1038/8... I'll have a hard time seeing him break that(Granted that would be a GREAT year for him even at that line). I can see the receptions happening but the yards and TDs not so much..

Maybe 65/700/4, Still good for a rookie WR but far from what some are expecting...

Smitty said:

DefiantVitreous said:

Smitty said:

DefiantVitreous said:

"The average stat line of a first-round rookie wideout over the last decade is 41 catches, 565 yards, and four touchdowns."

Just thought I'd drop that tidbit in here for sanity.

Yeah I love Brown, but it is hard to imagine him having a big statistical year as the third wheel. Who knows what's going on in AZ during his third season, though. I should have this news piece up shortly.

I was talking moreso about Cooks and the outrageous (IMO) predictions for him. The same can be applied to Brown however.

Could be right, but outliers jump out from time to time. Keenan Allen, Anquan Boldin, the only crazy or outrageous stance to me is one that eliminates all other possibilities. Meaning, to say Cooks CAN'T be one of those rookies in his situation, OR that he for sure will be, those are the only two stances that really are the crazy ones. Anything can happen, big man, and to say Cooks might be treated differently than most rookie receivers, especially incoming rookie Saints receivers, isn't all that hard to believe. I get if you don't like Cooks and you're predicting a letdown. That's a totally legit stance. So are the others, though. It's all opinion, no one has any idea how well he will perform right out of the gate, which will surely influence how many plays/targets he sees the following game, then the following game, and so on.

So, big man, you're saying that the only legit stance right now is to play both sides of the fence? I don't think anyone has said that they can predict the future with 100% certainty, so the obvious-that no one has a crystal ball- shouldn't have to be said. However, with all that said, in my opinion, the odds speak volumes. The odds that he goes for 85/1100/7 are so low that it's crazy (to me at least) to predict that. Not saying that it can't happen, just that it most likely won't. So telling people to temper their expectations is the rationale point of view. Being blinded by hope and the love for their shiny newly drafted rookie is a mistake.

DefiantVitreous said:

Smitty said:

DefiantVitreous said:

Smitty said:

DefiantVitreous said:

"The average stat line of a first-round rookie wideout over the last decade is 41 catches, 565 yards, and four touchdowns."

Just thought I'd drop that tidbit in here for sanity.

Yeah I love Brown, but it is hard to imagine him having a big statistical year as the third wheel. Who knows what's going on in AZ during his third season, though. I should have this news piece up shortly.

I was talking moreso about Cooks and the outrageous (IMO) predictions for him. The same can be applied to Brown however.

Could be right, but outliers jump out from time to time. Keenan Allen, Anquan Boldin, the only crazy or outrageous stance to me is one that eliminates all other possibilities. Meaning, to say Cooks CAN'T be one of those rookies in his situation, OR that he for sure will be, those are the only two stances that really are the crazy ones. Anything can happen, big man, and to say Cooks might be treated differently than most rookie receivers, especially incoming rookie Saints receivers, isn't all that hard to believe. I get if you don't like Cooks and you're predicting a letdown. That's a totally legit stance. So are the others, though. It's all opinion, no one has any idea how well he will perform right out of the gate, which will surely influence how many plays/targets he sees the following game, then the following game, and so on.

So, big man, you're saying that the only legit stance right now is to play both sides of the fence? I don't think anyone has said that they can predict the future with 100% certainty, so the obvious-that no one has a crystal ball- shouldn't have to be said. However, with all that said, in my opinion, the odds speak volumes. The odds that he goes for 85/1100/7 are so low that it's crazy (to me at least) to predict that. Not saying that it can't happen, just that it most likely won't. So telling people to temper their expectations is the rationale point of view. Being blinded by hope and the love for their shiny newly drafted rookie is a mistake.

I don't agree with some of the larger predictions in this thread, but wouldn't rule them out. No, that's not on the fence, that's being humble to the unknown vs saying "here is how it will go". I think for Cooks and his situation, 60 receptions will be doable, so will 900-1000.. Nowhere have I said double digit scores, but think a realistic number is 6.

First off the numbers originally predicted was 70/1000/5-7. Not 85/1100/7.

Why are you always trolling Defiant? By the way, how is your rigged family league you are commish of?

Your prediction of 45-55/750/4 for Cooks is easily reachable. Hopkins went for 52/800/2 last year & had a poor finish to the season due to concussion issues ( w Houston's qb issues ) Cooks SHOULD get to your numbers w Brees throwing him the ball.

Let's keep things clean with a level of respect and about the topic gents.

I've found that usually if someone has to resort to name calling or speaking about someone else's view negatively, they don't have a solid argument. If you are confident and informed, then you can defend your stance without the name calling...

So far in this thread my prediction has been called crazy twice, never gonna happen, outrageous, and apparently I'm going to be butt hurt by my expectations. I've chosen not to debate it further.

Yep, let's get back on track. Next person to rip on someone in this thread will have me close it. Stay positive, folks.

I'm also going to say this one last time to all... if you constantly pick at other people's posts, even if not super, super nasty, but still you are just constantly negative to others, you will receive a warning. If you already have a warning, your account will be suspended.

Debate is fine, but close-minded "your stuff is crazy" or "you will get butt hurt watch" just gets plain old and negative.

Staying on topic here I'll go 70 reception for 800 yards and 7 TD's with 2 fumbles. :)

Nice, swamps!

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